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'Put up or shut up' - MP to Liberal quislings
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2019-03-23 23:43:17 UTC
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Amen. They were never bound by any confidentiality privileges . . . they could have produced any and all information at any time according to legal experts. They chose to play the 'I've been prevented from speaking' game instead.

Remove them from the party. Pull the nomination approval from Wilson-Raybould. Rehire Butts and Wernick. The female sorority has had its time in the spotlight. . . now let's get on with government _sans_ the Harper Cons back-biting and salivating for power.

If Jody Wilson-Raybould couldn't withstand the "pressure" put on her DPA stance, she was never material for the office of Attorney-General. Her personal retaliation for being demoted for her intransigence should not be allowed to sink an entire government that has done a helluva lot more for Canada than the party that is salivating to retake power once again . . . .
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CBC News · Posted: Mar 23, 2019

'Put up or shut up': Liberal MP challenges Philpott and Wilson-Raybould over SNC-Lavalin


Long-time Liberal MP Judy Sgro is calling out fellow caucus members Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, accusing them of targeting their anger and frustration directly at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau over the SNC-Lavalin scandal.

In an explosive interview with Maclean's — her first media interview since she resigned from the Liberal cabinet on March 4 — Philpott said there is "much more" to the SNC-Lavalin affair and Canadians have concerns about the government's attempts to "shut down" the story.

On Friday, Wilson-Raybould said she will provide a written statement and copies of text messages and emails to the Commons justice committee that shut down its probe of the SNC-Lavalin affair.

Both the interview and the letter landed in the midst of a parliamentary uproar over the Liberals' move to end the Commons justice committee's probe of Wilson-Raybould's claim that she was pressured by senior government officials to allow SNC-Lavalin to avoid a criminal trial on bribery charges.

Philpott, who resigned from cabinet over the government's handling of the file, said she believes Canadians need answers to maintain their confidence in the independence of the justice system.

But Sgro said she thinks Wilson-Raybould and Philpott are providing fodder to the opposition and challenged them to use their parliamentary privilege to air whatever they have to say on the SNC-Lavalin affair.

"It's either put up or shut up," Sgro told Chris Hall, host of CBC Radio's The House, in an interview airing Saturday.

"If you've got something to say, you've had two months to get out there and say it."

When asked if she thought Trudeau was being targeted by Wilson-Raybould and Philpott, Sgro didn't mince words.

"It certainly appears to be that way," she said.

Sgro was one of the MPs attending a meeting of the Liberals' Ontario caucus on Wednesday — a meeting described by people in the room as "rough" and "uncomfortable."

CBC News reported this week that Philpott faced tough questions from her colleagues at the closed-door meeting. Sources inside the room told CBC News Philpott began by defending her decision to resign from cabinet, saying she was acting on principle and for the good of the country. Some MPs reminded her that the caucus had supported her on sensitive issues, including her handling of medical assistance in dying legislation, and had backed her when she ran into controversy over limo costs in 2016.

Some at the meeting also told CBC News that Philpott appeared to be taking notes and was asked to stop.

Sgro said she thinks the ongoing affair is hurting the Liberal government's chance of re-election this year and some of her fellow MPs are worried.

"It affects all of us when one of our members of the team decides to go out and speak against the rest of us, or unnerve the rest of us," she said . "You can't keep dropping innuendo every day and expect that all of us from the prime minister down are hopeless to stand back and do anything about this."

Trudeau's brand as a feminist has taken hits since the SNC-Lavalin affair began, including Opposition House Leader Candice Bergen accusing him of being a "fake feminist". Sgro fiercely defended Trudeau, saying that of the five prime ministers she's served with, she's never had a prime minister as caring and compassionate as him.

Despite her challenge to her caucus colleagues, Sgro said she thinks the justice committee probe shouldn't be reopened and that any further probe should be handled by the ethics commissioner.

"Let the commissioner do his job. He'll come back with a recommendation to the House of Commons, with a report, and then whatever action ... if any action needs to be done, it'll be done then," she said.

"Let's let things get investigated by the proper people and not politicians who are out to knock each other."
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Greg Carr
2019-03-24 03:27:13 UTC
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Amen. They were never bound by any confidentiality privileges . . .
Lots of ppl disagree with that legal position.
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they could have produced any and all information at any time >according to legal experts. They chose to play the 'I've been prevented >from speaking' game instead.
Remove them from the party.
Beyond me why the Liberals don't except Turdeau is a pro-abortion feminazi.
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Pull the nomination approval from Wilson-Raybould. Rehire Butts and >Wernick.
Wernick wasn't fired the hack quit and good riddance he gets a hefty pension payout so don't cry for him.
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The female sorority has had its time in the spotlight. . . now let's >get on with government _sans_ the Harper Cons back-biting and >
salivating for power.
Karen Eileen Gordon was too stupid and ugly to be a sorority girl. I am voting Tory come election time and the last 4 polls all show the Tories in the lead. Moroneau's 20 billion dollar deficit budget won't get him any swing votes and the trust fund pinup said the budget would be balanced. He has never met a payroll in his life.
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If Jody Wilson-Raybould couldn't withstand the "pressure" put on her >DPA stance, she was never material for the office of Attorney-General.
Truedope is the idiot who appointed her.
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Her personal retaliation for being demoted for her intransigence >should not be allowed to sink an entire government that has done a >helluva lot more for Canada than the party that is salivating to retake >power once again . . . .
The Conservatives repeatedly warned Canadians in the last election that junior was too inexperienced to be PM and that is still true. The Pheonix disaster is ongoing.
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CBC News · Posted: Mar 23, 2019
'Put up or shut up': Liberal MP challenges Philpott and Wilson-Raybould over SNC-Lavalin
Long-time Liberal MP Judy Sgro is calling out fellow caucus members Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, accusing them of targeting their anger and frustration directly at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau over the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
In an explosive interview with Maclean's — her first media interview since she resigned from the Liberal cabinet on March 4 — Philpott said there is "much more" to the SNC-Lavalin affair and Canadians have concerns about the government's attempts to "shut down" the story.
On Friday, Wilson-Raybould said she will provide a written statement and copies of text messages and emails to the Commons justice committee that shut down its probe of the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Both the interview and the letter landed in the midst of a parliamentary uproar over the Liberals' move to end the Commons justice committee's probe of Wilson-Raybould's claim that she was pressured by senior government officials to allow SNC-Lavalin to avoid a criminal trial on bribery charges.
Philpott, who resigned from cabinet over the government's handling of the file, said she believes Canadians need answers to maintain their confidence in the independence of the justice system.
But Sgro said she thinks Wilson-Raybould and Philpott are providing fodder to the opposition and challenged them to use their parliamentary privilege to air whatever they have to say on the SNC-Lavalin affair.
"It's either put up or shut up," Sgro told Chris Hall, host of CBC Radio's The House, in an interview airing Saturday.
"If you've got something to say, you've had two months to get out there and say it."
When asked if she thought Trudeau was being targeted by Wilson-Raybould and Philpott, Sgro didn't mince words.
"It certainly appears to be that way," she said.
Sgro was one of the MPs attending a meeting of the Liberals' Ontario caucus on Wednesday — a meeting described by people in the room as "rough" and "uncomfortable."
CBC News reported this week that Philpott faced tough questions from her colleagues at the closed-door meeting. Sources inside the room told CBC News Philpott began by defending her decision to resign from cabinet, saying she was acting on principle and for the good of the country. Some MPs reminded her that the caucus had supported her on sensitive issues, including her handling of medical assistance in dying legislation, and had backed her when she ran into controversy over limo costs in 2016.
Some at the meeting also told CBC News that Philpott appeared to be taking notes and was asked to stop.
Sgro said she thinks the ongoing affair is hurting the Liberal government's chance of re-election this year and some of her fellow MPs are worried.
"It affects all of us when one of our members of the team decides to go out and speak against the rest of us, or unnerve the rest of us," she said . "You can't keep dropping innuendo every day and expect that all of us from the prime minister down are hopeless to stand back and do anything about this."
Trudeau's brand as a feminist has taken hits since the SNC-Lavalin affair began, including Opposition House Leader Candice Bergen accusing him of being a "fake feminist". Sgro fiercely defended Trudeau, saying that of the five prime ministers she's served with, she's never had a prime minister as caring and compassionate as him.
Despite her challenge to her caucus colleagues, Sgro said she thinks the justice committee probe shouldn't be reopened and that any further probe should be handled by the ethics commissioner.
"Let the commissioner do his job. He'll come back with a recommendation to the House of Commons, with a report, and then whatever action ... if any action needs to be done, it'll be done then," she said.
"Let's let things get investigated by the proper people and not politicians who are out to knock each other."
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Judy Sgro is a failure as a human being and should have no place in Canadian political life. Karen Eileen Gordon should know when Sgro was immigration minister she allowed hundreds of thousands of Asians to this country.

Judy Sgro is no feminist.






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12/25/04



http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=042c8956-c576-4fd4-8a8c-9981cde25e1a&page=1
Ottawa 'strips' rules
Was warned exotic dancers forced into prostitution

Robert Fife
CanWest News Service
December 21, 2004
OTTAWA - Human Resources Development Canada gave foreign strippers a
blanket exemption to work in Canada despite warnings from inside the
government the women would be forced into prostitution at clubs
controlled by organized crime, according to federal documents.
Despite alarm bells about organized crime's involvement in the
importation of exotic dancers, Pierre Pettigrew, then human resources
minister, approved the special exemption on April 28, 1998, under a
labour mobility program.
Mr. Pettigrew, now Foreign Affairs Minister, and successive human
resources ministers ignored calls to cancel the program from officials
in other departments who said it promoted the trafficking of
"vulnerable women" for "illegal sex activities in Canada."
Memos obtained under Access to Information by Vancouver immigration
lawyer Richard Kurland reveal Human Resources Development Canada
(HRDC) knew foreign strippers, mainly from eastern Europe, would be
forced into prostitution at clubs run by organized crime.
Officials at Citizenship and Immigration and other departments voiced
strong objections to the blanket exemption, and recounted horror
stories of exotic dancers being forced into sexual slavery in Canada.
"Having heard many stories from returning applicants of how they
suffered abuse at the hands of their employers and were little more
than indentured servants [often having passports confiscated and being
unable to leave until their airfare was fully paid], we are extremely
hesitant to send women into this profession," an April 8, 1998, memo
from Citizenship and Immigration said.
"Reports have emphasized that this profession is very closely linked
with organized crime [as it is in Europe] and that the primary concern
is what faces these women in Canada."
The memo also expressed frustration that HRDC pushed ahead with the
exemption even though it contradicted Canada's foreign policy against
global trafficking in women. Other internal documents obtained by
CanWest News Service show senior HRDC officials were repeatedly urged
over the past six years to cancel the special exemption, yet refused
to do so.
Daniel Jean, assistant deputy minister at Citizenship and Immigration,
wrote to his HRDC counterpart, Phil Jensen, on May 31, 2003, to
register concern about the involvement of criminal syndicates in
trafficking of foreign strippers.
"There is increased vulnerability of exploitation of the dancers
stemming from a demand for increased level of contact with club
patrons and an alleged involvement of organized crime in the
industry," Mr. Jean wrote.
In a June 9, 2004, letter, Mr. Jean again complained about the
increase in the trafficking of exotic dancers from eastern Europe, as
well as Asia, into Canada for prostitution.
"In this movement, many vulnerable women are being misled, exploited
and trafficked to support illegal sex trade activities in Canada," Mr.
Jean wrote to Karen Jackson, assistant deputy minister of workplace
skills at HRDC.
A senior government official said intimidation by organized crime in
the adult entertainment business led HRDC to set up the fast-track
program for foreign strippers.
The program came to light after it was revealed that Immigration
Minister Judy Sgro fast-tracked a Romanian stripper who had worked on
her re-election campaign.
The program gave blanket permission for strip club owners to bring in
foreign exotic dancers without having to show they could not find
anyone to fill the job in Canada.
Human Resources Minister Joe Volpe finally cancelled the special
exemption on Dec. 15, but he had to battle his own officials who
feared HRDC field officers could face retaliation from organized
crime.
Senior HRDC officials informed Mr. Volpe's office the special
exemption was given to foreign dancers because they didn't want their
front-line officers to deal with strip club owners on a case-by-case
basis.
Attempts to determine why Mr. Pettigrew approved the special exemption
were unsuccessful. His spokesman, Sebastien Theberge, referred all
inquiries to Mr. Volpe's office.
According to an April 14, 1998, memo, Bradley Pascoe, an Immigration
Department official wrote the policy exemption change for exotic
dancers had "indeed gone right to Minister Pettigrew's office" for
approval.
Before Mr. Volpe cancelled the program, Ms. Sgro had defended the
stripper exemption despite her department's concerns.
Ms. Sgro, whose chief of staff visited strip clubs to meet owners who
wanted to bring in foreign dancers, feared ending the program could
hurt the strip club business.
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These officials should be fired then prosecuted. Maybe HAMC should sue
because their strip clubs were not shown the same favouritism. I
wonder how much money they could have raised for the Liberal party if
Hedy Fry and Carrolyn Parrish had performed a duo act. Anne Mclellan
should be congratulated for doing nothing in this matter. This is the
same minister that refuses to make the new sex offender registry
retroactive allowing thousands of convicted sex criminals to move
willy nilly around Canada and take jobs in day cares and schools.
Meanwhile in California they have listed every sex offendor on a web
site and it is getting 25,000 hits a minute.
http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/

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Let the Liberal party fall into the ash heap of history.

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