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Saudi 'row' won't affect their oil sales to Canada ?!
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b***@gmail.com
2018-08-09 20:22:17 UTC
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Really? Screw the Canadians, but keep the profits happening?

Justin Trudeau, if you really are committed to doing 'the right thing', you'll suspend any transfers of arms to these blaggards, cancel any oil contracts, and stop all farmers sending their wheat and barley crops to the Canadian Wheat Board.

Yep - the Saudis hold the majority of our Canadian Wheat Board - thanks that asshole Stephen Harper.
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Amid criticism, the Canadian Wheat Board's Single Desk marketing power officially ended on 1 August 2012 as a result of Bill C-18, also known as the Marketing Freedom for Grain Farmers Act, which was tabled by the Harper government and passed in December 2011.

The Canadian Wheat Board changed its name to simply CWB, reflecting its changed status. CWB continued to operate as a grain company, although the bill also set a timeline for the eventual privatization of CWB.

On 15 April 2015, it was announced that a 50.1% majority stake in CWB would be acquired by Global Grain Group, a joint venture of Bunge Limited and the Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company, for $250 million. The CWB name has been changed to G3 Canada Limited.
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And as for the amount of oil we buy from the Saudis, it's time that Alberta and Rachel Notley started REFINING their black tar in their own back yard - using up their water, poisoning their land and air, and then selling the lovely refined product TO CANADIANS so that we don't have to make trade deals with the likes of Saudi Arabia.

Mr Trudeau, get the Saudis out of our wheat board and get their oil the hell out of our ports.
b***@gmail.com
2018-08-09 20:26:23 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
Really? Screw the Canadians, but keep the profits happening?
Justin Trudeau, if you really are committed to doing 'the right thing', you'll suspend any transfers of arms to these blaggards, cancel any oil contracts, and stop all farmers sending their wheat and barley crops to the Canadian Wheat Board.
Yep - the Saudis hold the majority of our Canadian Wheat Board - thanks that asshole Stephen Harper.
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Amid criticism, the Canadian Wheat Board's Single Desk marketing power officially ended on 1 August 2012 as a result of Bill C-18, also known as the Marketing Freedom for Grain Farmers Act, which was tabled by the Harper government and passed in December 2011.
The Canadian Wheat Board changed its name to simply CWB, reflecting its changed status. CWB continued to operate as a grain company, although the bill also set a timeline for the eventual privatization of CWB.
On 15 April 2015, it was announced that a 50.1% majority stake in CWB would be acquired by Global Grain Group, a joint venture of Bunge Limited and the Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company, for $250 million. The CWB name has been changed to G3 Canada Limited.
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And as for the amount of oil we buy from the Saudis, it's time that Alberta and Rachel Notley started REFINING their black tar in their own back yard - using up their water, poisoning their land and air, and then selling the lovely refined product TO CANADIANS so that we don't have to make trade deals with the likes of Saudi Arabia.
Mr Trudeau, get the Saudis out of our wheat board and get their oil the hell out of our ports.
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Just an interjection in the above - this added note re: their control of our wheat and barley:
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Global News - August 8, 2018

‘Business as usual’ says Saudi-backed Canadian Wheat Board owners

The owners of the Saudi Arabia-backed Canadian Wheat Board says despite escalating diplomatic tensions between Saudi Arabia and Canada, everything there is running normally.

“It’s business as usual,” G3 vice-president Brett Malkoske told Reuters.

The Saudi-Canada feud began after Global Affairs Canada called for the “immediate release” of women’s rights activists Samar Badawi and Nassima al-Sadah over the weekend.

In response, Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman expelled Canada’s ambassador, froze new trade and investment, suspended a student exchange program and halted flights by state-owned Saudi Arabian Airlines to Canada for what it called “blatant interference” in its domestic affairs.

In 2015, the CWB was taken over by the state-owned Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Co. and U.S. grain company Bunge. Now known as G3 Ltd., the majority-controlled Saudi firm said it has no plans to change or reduce its purchases of Canadian crops.

The Saudi government has not said whether it will sell its stake in G3.
Dhu on Gate
2018-08-09 22:10:53 UTC
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 13:26:23 -0700, brewnoser2 wrote:
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Post by b***@gmail.com
The Saudi government has not said whether it will sell its stake in G3.
Since they've Declared War I think it's time to re-Nationalize the Wheat Board.
Selling it was one of Harper's more treasonous acts.

I'd enjoy seeing his head on a stick.

Dhu
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b***@gmail.com
2018-08-09 22:28:46 UTC
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The Saudi government has not said whether it will sell its stake in G3.
Since they've Declared War I think it's time to re-Nationalize the Wheat Board.
Selling it was one of Harper's more treasonous acts.
I'd enjoy seeing his head on a stick.
I wonder if there's a buyer somewhere out there for that?

Whatever products or services Canada has kept under government control has always had OUR say on how, and for what price, those products or services are sold. Doesn't matter if it's water . . . hydro . . . oil and gas . . . farm products . . .
we had control - because we could control our governments with our votes.

Companies and countries who want to invest in Canada don't like government control over anything they do here. That's why they write all those "no government interference without penalty" clauses into those free trade deals.

The Saudis found a willing partner in Canada when they found privatize-everything-Harper at the helm of government. And they wanted our wheat and our barley, but they didn't want government interference with the amount of supply or the cost of it.

Trudeau has got to find a way to buy back that 1% we need to kick the Saudis the hell and gone from Canada. Harper's legacy lives on in this kind of damage to our sovereignty and our price for goods.

Trudeau take off your shirt and flex your muscles for us in a more productive way this time . . . .
Dhu on Gate
2018-08-10 00:41:44 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
The Saudi government has not said whether it will sell its stake in G3.
Since they've Declared War I think it's time to re-Nationalize the Wheat Board.
Selling it was one of Harper's more treasonous acts.
I'd enjoy seeing his head on a stick.
I wonder if there's a buyer somewhere out there for that?
Whatever products or services Canada has kept under government control
has always had OUR say on how, and for what price, those products or
services are sold. Doesn't matter if it's water . . . hydro . . . oil
and gas . . . farm products . . .
Post by b***@gmail.com
we had control - because we could control our governments with our votes.
Companies and countries who want to invest in Canada don't like
government control over anything they do here. That's why they write all
those "no government interference without penalty" clauses into those
free trade deals.
Post by b***@gmail.com
The Saudis found a willing partner in Canada when they found privatize-
everything-Harper at the helm of government. And they wanted our wheat
and our barley, but they didn't want government interference with the
amount of supply or the cost of it.
Post by b***@gmail.com
Trudeau has got to find a way to buy back that 1% we need to kick the
Why buy it back? Mebbe we should just start another crown corp and run
it as market competition. Call it a cultural heritage of co-operative
socialism, if you will.
Post by b***@gmail.com
Saudis the hell and gone from Canada. Harper's legacy lives on in this
kind of damage to our sovereignty and our price for goods.

they're just trying to scare Urop into towing their line. If we don't
back down I doubt the French will.

Dhu (Vive' la France Libre' !)
Post by b***@gmail.com
Trudeau take off your shirt and flex your muscles for us in a more
productive way this time . . . .


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Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglaise.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)

http://babayaga.neotext.ca/PublicKeys/Duncan_Patton_a_Campbell_pubkey.txt
gordo
2018-08-10 18:14:41 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
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Really? Screw the Canadians, but keep the profits happening?
Justin Trudeau, if you really are committed to doing 'the right thing', you'll suspend any transfers of arms to these blaggards, cancel any oil contracts, and stop all farmers sending their wheat and barley crops to the Canadian Wheat Board.
Yep - the Saudis hold the majority of our Canadian Wheat Board - thanks that asshole Stephen Harper.
___________________________
Amid criticism, the Canadian Wheat Board's Single Desk marketing power officially ended on 1 August 2012 as a result of Bill C-18, also known as the Marketing Freedom for Grain Farmers Act, which was tabled by the Harper government and passed in December 2011.
The Canadian Wheat Board changed its name to simply CWB, reflecting its changed status. CWB continued to operate as a grain company, although the bill also set a timeline for the eventual privatization of CWB.
On 15 April 2015, it was announced that a 50.1% majority stake in CWB would be acquired by Global Grain Group, a joint venture of Bunge Limited and the Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company, for $250 million. The CWB name has been changed to G3 Canada Limited.
________________________
And as for the amount of oil we buy from the Saudis, it's time that Alberta and Rachel Notley started REFINING their black tar in their own back yard - using up their water, poisoning their land and air, and then selling the lovely refined product TO CANADIANS so that we don't have to make trade deals with the likes of Saudi Arabia.
Mr Trudeau, get the Saudis out of our wheat board and get their oil the hell out of our ports.
___________________________________________________________________
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Global News - August 8, 2018
‘Business as usual’ says Saudi-backed Canadian Wheat Board owners
The owners of the Saudi Arabia-backed Canadian Wheat Board says despite escalating diplomatic tensions between Saudi Arabia and Canada, everything there is running normally.
“It’s business as usual,” G3 vice-president Brett Malkoske told Reuters.
The Saudi-Canada feud began after Global Affairs Canada called for the “immediate release” of women’s rights activists Samar Badawi and Nassima al-Sadah over the weekend.
In response, Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman expelled Canada’s ambassador, froze new trade and investment, suspended a student exchange program and halted flights by state-owned Saudi Arabian Airlines to Canada for what it called “blatant interference” in its domestic affairs.
In 2015, the CWB was taken over by the state-owned Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Co. and U.S. grain company Bunge. Now known as G3 Ltd., the majority-controlled Saudi firm said it has no plans to change or reduce its purchases of Canadian crops.
The Saudi government has not said whether it will sell its stake in G3.
It was Harper,the worst pm in Canadian history who authorized the sale
of armored vehicles to the Saudis and also gave them the Canadian
Wheat Board.

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Greg Carr
2018-08-10 20:52:49 UTC
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Really? Screw the Canadians, but keep the profits happening?
Justin Trudeau, if you really are committed to doing 'the right thing', you'll suspend any transfers of arms to these blaggards, cancel any oil contracts, and stop all farmers sending their wheat and barley crops to the Canadian Wheat Board.
Yep - the Saudis hold the majority of our Canadian Wheat Board - thanks that asshole Stephen Harper.
___________________________
Amid criticism, the Canadian Wheat Board's Single Desk marketing power officially ended on 1 August 2012 as a result of Bill C-18, also known as the Marketing Freedom for Grain Farmers Act, which was tabled by the Harper government and passed in December 2011.
The Canadian Wheat Board changed its name to simply CWB, reflecting its changed status. CWB continued to operate as a grain company, although the bill also set a timeline for the eventual privatization of CWB.
On 15 April 2015, it was announced that a 50.1% majority stake in CWB would be acquired by Global Grain Group, a joint venture of Bunge Limited and the Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company, for $250 million. The CWB name has been changed to G3 Canada Limited.
________________________
And as for the amount of oil we buy from the Saudis, it's time that Alberta and Rachel Notley started REFINING their black tar in their own back yard - using up their water, poisoning their land and air, and then selling the lovely refined product TO CANADIANS so that we don't have to make trade deals with the likes of Saudi Arabia.
Mr Trudeau, get the Saudis out of our wheat board and get their oil the hell out of our ports.
___________________________________________________________________
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Global News - August 8, 2018
‘Business as usual’ says Saudi-backed Canadian Wheat Board owners
The owners of the Saudi Arabia-backed Canadian Wheat Board says despite escalating diplomatic tensions between Saudi Arabia and Canada, everything there is running normally.
“It’s business as usual,” G3 vice-president Brett Malkoske told Reuters.
The Saudi-Canada feud began after Global Affairs Canada called for the “immediate release” of women’s rights activists Samar Badawi and Nassima al-Sadah over the weekend.
In response, Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman expelled Canada’s ambassador, froze new trade and investment, suspended a student exchange program and halted flights by state-owned Saudi Arabian Airlines to Canada for what it called “blatant interference” in its domestic affairs.
In 2015, the CWB was taken over by the state-owned Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Co. and U.S. grain company Bunge. Now known as G3 Ltd., the majority-controlled Saudi firm said it has no plans to change or reduce its purchases of Canadian crops.
The Saudi government has not said whether it will sell its stake in G3.
It was Harper,the worst pm in Canadian history who authorized the sale
of armored vehicles to the Saudis and also gave them the Canadian
Wheat Board.
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Trudeau could have cancelled the deal but he knew it would cost Canada billions in lost revenue and 6k jobs.
b***@gmail.com
2018-08-11 02:44:08 UTC
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Post by Greg Carr
Trudeau could have cancelled the deal but he knew it would cost Canada billions in lost revenue and 6k jobs.
So jobs and money are the ultimate determinant in who we trade with - and what we trade?
See Rachel Notley & her Alberta tar for another example.

Trudeau is either going to have to grow a spine or some moral ethos. I'm bloody tired of watching one vital commodity and resource sold to the enemy for the price of a dollar.
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