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For The Dumb Fucks That Post Their Drivel Every Time Someone Leaves The Trump Administration...
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AlleyCat
2018-03-07 06:32:23 UTC
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... NONE of that shit is unprecedented.

For every person that has left Trump's administration, there have been the
same in Obama's.

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How does Trump White House turnover compare to Bush, Obama?
By Haley Bracken, Manuela Tobias on Friday, August 4th, 2017 at 1:51 p.m.

A timeline of the resignations and firings of top government officials
during President Donald Trump's administration.

President Donald Trump called July 31 a "great day" at the White House.

The characterization clashed with news headlines of internal upheaval:
July 31 was the 10th and final day of Anthony Scaramucci's tenure as
communications director and John Kelly's first day as chief of staff after
the forced departure of Reince Priebus.

In the past six months, the Trump administration has seen the firing or
resignation of its chief of staff, communications director, press
secretary, FBI director, ethics director, national security adviser and
more.

Pundits and members of the media have remarked on the "chaotic" turnover.

But is the Trump turnover as rapid as it seems?

We compared the length of service of the most high-profile departed Trump
staffers to people in the same role in the administrations of President
Barack Obama and President George W Bush.

In context, the speed of Trump's hires and fires have been surprising, but
not unprecedented across the board.


Chief of Staff:

Bush's first: 1,911 days

OBAMA's first: 620 days

Trump's first: 189 days

Priebus was in fact the shortest-serving chief of staff in history. He
served for 189 days, while the second-shortest stint (Kenneth Duberstein
under Ronald Reagan) lasted 203 days.

Pete Rouse served for only 104 days as interim chief of staff for Obama in
2010 after his first chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, left to run for Chicago
mayor. But Priebus wasn't in an interim role.


Communications director:

Bush's first: 256 days

OBAMA's first: 92 days

Trump's first: 134 days

The communications director is the newest role on this list, created in
1969 by the Nixon administration. The first director was Herbert Klein,
who lasted the longest in office. He was tasked with dealing with the
Watergate scandal that eventually led to Nixon's resignation.

Trump has gone through three communications directors so far, with
Scaramucci serving the shortest period as the second person named to the
role.

His 10 days as communications director (he was not officially supposed to
start until Aug. 15th) almost beat out Jack Koehler for shortest tenure.
Koehler worked in the Ronald Reagan administration and stepped down after
a week on the job, when news broke that he once belonged to a Nazi youth
group.

Trump's first communications director was Republican operative Michael
Dubke. He was on the job for 134 days. Press Secretary Sean Spicer took on
his responsibilities for 53 days until Scaramucci came along, at which
point he resigned.

There have been other brief tenures in the position in the recent past.

Ellen Moran served for 92 days at the start of the Obama administration,
after which she became chief of staff for Commerce Secretary Gary Locke.

George Stephanopoulos, under the Clinton administration, served for 138
days. George W. Bush's first communications director, Karen Hughes, lasted
just over eight months.

Press secretary:

Bush's first: 906 days

OBAMA's first: 753 days

Trump's first: 182 days

Spicer, Trump's first press secretary, lasted 182 days.

There have been shorter tenures. Jerald Franklin Horst was in office for
one month at the start of Gerald Ford's presidency and acting press
secretary Stephen Early served for 13 days under President Harry Truman.

In more recent history, Bush's first press secretary, Ari Fleischer,
lasted over two and a half years. Obama's Robert Gibbs worked in the role
just over two years.
National Security Adviser

Michael Flynn set another record for shortest tenure as national security
adviser, a position established in 1953 amid the Cold War.

Flynn was on the job for 24 days before he resigned (Feb. 13); the average
is 2.6 years, according to the Washington Post.

Flynn acknowledged in his resignation that he misled Vice President Mike
Pence and others about illegal conversations with a Russian official.

Stephen Hadley lasted four years as Bush's first national security adviser
and Thomas Donilon lasted for two years and eight months under Obama.
FBI director

Former FBI director James Comey wasn't the shortest-serving FBI director
in history, but his tenure is on the shorter end at three years and eight
months. He is the second FBI director ever to be fired.

The last and only other time this happened was when Clinton fired William
Sessions after he refused to step down amid ethical concerns in 1993.
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None of the Above
2018-03-07 08:47:40 UTC
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It is kinda funny that the 'Scaramucci' has become a unit of time
measure.
AlleyCat
2018-03-07 23:17:59 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
The last and only other time this happened was when Clinton fired William
Sessions after he refused to step down amid ethical concerns in 1993.
Who's Left?
Everyone and anyone needed to fill the position vacated, dumb ass.

You MUST be a liberal... only liberals are stupid enough to believe that
when someone leaves, the positions aren't filled right back up.
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Wanna make a Conservative mad? Tell him a lie.

Wanna make a Liberal mad? Tell him the truth about shithole countries
where most of their voters are from.
Siri Cruise
2018-03-08 00:20:38 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Post by AlleyCat
The last and only other time this happened was when Clinton fired William
Sessions after he refused to step down amid ethical concerns in 1993.
Who's Left?
Everyone and anyone needed to fill the position vacated, dumb ass.
You MUST be a liberal... only liberals are stupid enough to believe that
when someone leaves, the positions aren't filled right back up.
The positions aren't filled up. It's impairing government function.

Career civil service who usually continue from president to president are
quitting. That's impairing government function.

Due to the this and Drumpf's personal assholeness, he hasn't favourably
renegotiated any of the trade deals despite his continued claims that he will
make the bestest trade deals ever. In fact he has soured relations with trading
partners.

This isn't 1799. Directly or indirectly american business depend on foreign
trade to be profitable. Drumpf is making profits smaller.
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Governor Swill
2018-03-12 09:44:50 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Post by AlleyCat
The last and only other time this happened was when Clinton fired William
Sessions after he refused to step down amid ethical concerns in 1993.
Who's Left?
Everyone and anyone needed to fill the position vacated, dumb ass.
You MUST be a liberal... only liberals are stupid enough to believe that
when someone leaves, the positions aren't filled right back up.
All that this country desires is to see the neighboring
countries stable, orderly, and prosperous. Any country whose
people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty
friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with
reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political
matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it
need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic
wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general
loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America,
as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some
civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the
adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may
force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant
cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of
an international police power. - The Roosevelt Corollary
Governor Swill
2018-03-12 11:06:43 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Post by AlleyCat
The last and only other time this happened was when Clinton fired William
Sessions after he refused to step down amid ethical concerns in 1993.
Who's Left?
Everyone and anyone needed to fill the position vacated, dumb ass.
You MUST be a liberal... only liberals are stupid enough to believe that
when someone leaves, the positions aren't filled right back up.
I think he meant who's left that's competent *and* not a crook. I
don't think Trump knows many people like that.

I found myself admiring him the other day. Talking to a table about
gun control. When one voice began defending the 2nd, Trump responded
with a grin, "You're afraid of the NRA aren't ya?"

I guess truths can come out of that mouth.

Swill
All that this country desires is to see the neighboring
countries stable, orderly, and prosperous. Any country whose
people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty
friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with
reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political
matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it
need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic
wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general
loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America,
as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some
civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the
adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may
force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant
cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of
an international police power. - The Roosevelt Corollary

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