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Greg Carr
2012-01-21 18:25:09 UTC
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Abbotsford murder victim killed in house owned by Hells Angel


BY KIM BOLAN AND ROCHELLE BAKER, ABBOTSFORD TIMESJANUARY 20, 2012





The house where a young Abbotsford man was found murdered last weekend
belongs to a member of the Hells Angels.

Ryan Saint-Ange, 21, was discovered dead by a friend on Jan. 14 at a
home he’d been living in the 27700 block of 56th Avenue.

The Bradner-area home is owned by full-patch Hells Angel Michael
Robatzek, according to the Vancouver Sun.

Saint-Ange was living in the home with a number of other people, but
no one else was at the residence when Saint-Ange was discovered.

The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team revealing little about how
or why the young man was murdered.

Despite the location of Saint-Ange’s death, IHIT spokesperson Sgt.
Jennifer Pound said at this point the murder does not seem to be gang-
related.

However, she would not comment on whether the victim was mistakenly
targeted or killed in a dispute.

An autopsy has been conducted but the cause of Saint-Ange’s death
won’t be released, Pound stated in an email.

“I cannot speak to the details as we need to ensure the integrity of
the investigation, and move in a direction that leads us closer to who
is responsible for this murder,” she said.

Saint-Ange had lived in Abbotsford for about two years, according to
Abbotsford Police.

Neither IHIT nor APD would confirm that the home belonged to Robatzek.

However, the APD had attended the home in the past, but not on a
frequent basis.

Saint-Ange had a conviction for trafficking drugs from July 2009 and
had been sentenced to a 10-month conditional sentence.

But at the time of his death, family and friends strongly disputed on-
line allegations on news sites and social networking sites that the
young man was a gangster, saying he was working to turn his life
around.

Facebook tributes to Saint-Ange, who went by the moniker Black Ryan,
recalled the young man as good natured and fun-loving.

Saint-Ange is the first homicide victim in Abbotsford in close to 15
months.

Abbotsford did not record a single homicide in 2011, shedding its
title as Canada's Murder Capital, the result of a series of high
profile gang killings in the last couple of years.

***@abbotsfordtimes.com

http://twitter.com/RochelleBaker1

http://twitter.com/abbytimes

© Copyright (c) Abbotsford Times

Greg-Also in Whistler recently a Hell's Angel associate had his motor
home fire bombed.

Contact your MP and ask him to have the HAMC banned as a terrorist
org.
&
2012-01-22 00:58:52 UTC
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Post by Greg Carr
Abbotsford murder victim killed in house owned by Hells Angel
BY KIM BOLAN AND ROCHELLE BAKER, ABBOTSFORD TIMESJANUARY 20, 2012
The house where a young Abbotsford man was found murdered last weekend
belongs to a member of the Hells Angels.
Ryan Saint-Ange, 21, was discovered dead by a friend on Jan. 14 at a
home he’d been living in the 27700 block of 56th Avenue.
The Bradner-area home is owned by full-patch Hells Angel Michael
Robatzek, according to the Vancouver Sun.
Saint-Ange was living in the home with a number of other people, but
no one else was at the residence when Saint-Ange was discovered.
The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team revealing little about how
or why the young man was murdered.
Despite the location of Saint-Ange’s death, IHIT spokesperson Sgt.
Jennifer Pound said at this point the murder does not seem to be gang-
related.
However, she would not comment on whether the victim was mistakenly
targeted or killed in a dispute.
An autopsy has been conducted but the cause of Saint-Ange’s death
won’t be released, Pound stated in an email.
“I cannot speak to the details as we need to ensure the integrity of
the investigation, and move in a direction that leads us closer to who
is responsible for this murder,” she said.
Saint-Ange had lived in Abbotsford for about two years, according to
Abbotsford Police.
Neither IHIT nor APD would confirm that the home belonged to Robatzek.
However, the APD had attended the home in the past, but not on a
frequent basis.
Saint-Ange had a conviction for trafficking drugs from July 2009 and
had been sentenced to a 10-month conditional sentence.
But at the time of his death, family and friends strongly disputed on-
line allegations on news sites and social networking sites that the
young man was a gangster, saying he was working to turn his life
around.
Facebook tributes to Saint-Ange, who went by the moniker Black Ryan,
recalled the young man as good natured and fun-loving.
Saint-Ange is the first homicide victim in Abbotsford in close to 15
months.
Abbotsford did not record a single homicide in 2011, shedding its
title as Canada's Murder Capital, the result of a series of high
profile gang killings in the last couple of years.
http://twitter.com/RochelleBaker1
http://twitter.com/abbytimes
© Copyright (c) Abbotsford Times
Greg-Also in Whistler recently a Hell's Angel associate had his motor
home fire bombed.
Contact your MP and ask him to have the HAMC banned as a terrorist
org.
If they ban HAMC, then other gangs get stronger. Someone is always
there to take up the slack.
Yamy
2012-01-22 06:59:00 UTC
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Post by Greg Carr
Abbotsford murder victim killed in house owned by Hells Angel
BY KIM BOLAN AND ROCHELLE BAKER, ABBOTSFORD TIMESJANUARY 20, 2012
The house where a young Abbotsford man was found murdered last weekend
belongs to a member of the Hells Angels.
Ryan Saint-Ange, 21, was discovered dead by a friend on Jan. 14 at a
home he’d been living in the 27700 block of 56th Avenue.
The Bradner-area home is owned by full-patch Hells Angel Michael
Robatzek, according to the Vancouver Sun.
Saint-Ange was living in the home with a number of other people, but
no one else was at the residence when Saint-Ange was discovered.
The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team revealing little about how
or why the young man was murdered.
Despite the location of Saint-Ange’s death, IHIT spokesperson Sgt.
Jennifer Pound said at this point the murder does not seem to be gang-
related.
However, she would not comment on whether the victim was mistakenly
targeted or killed in a dispute.
An autopsy has been conducted but the cause of Saint-Ange’s death
won’t be released, Pound stated in an email.
“I cannot speak to the details as we need to ensure the integrity of
the investigation, and move in a direction that leads us closer to who
is responsible for this murder,” she said.
Saint-Ange had lived in Abbotsford for about two years, according to
Abbotsford Police.
Neither IHIT nor APD would confirm that the home belonged to Robatzek.
However, the APD had attended the home in the past, but not on a
frequent basis.
Saint-Ange had a conviction for trafficking drugs from July 2009 and
had been sentenced to a 10-month conditional sentence.
But at the time of his death, family and friends strongly disputed on-
line allegations on news sites and social networking sites that the
young man was a gangster, saying he was working to turn his life
around.
Facebook tributes to Saint-Ange, who went by the moniker Black Ryan,
recalled the young man as good natured and fun-loving.
Saint-Ange is the first homicide victim in Abbotsford in close to 15
months.
Abbotsford did not record a single homicide in 2011, shedding its
title as Canada's Murder Capital, the result of a series of high
profile gang killings in the last couple of years.
http://twitter.com/RochelleBaker1
http://twitter.com/abbytimes
© Copyright (c) Abbotsford Times
Greg-Also in Whistler recently a Hell's Angel associate had his motor
home fire bombed.
Contact your MP and ask him to have the HAMC banned as a terrorist
org.
If they ban HAMC, then other gangs get stronger. Someone is always
there to take up the slack.
What other MC gangs, they were all patched over,...Satan' Choice,
Loners. Bandidos, Outlaws. BDR, PIB, and to many more.

The other non MC gangs, are cheap thugs who are just TV inspired
punks.

Bob
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National Association of Assault Research
Soul Yamaha Majesty400 2005, Grey, Night Rider!
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2012-01-22 13:03:48 UTC
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Post by Greg Carr
Abbotsford murder victim killed in house owned by Hells Angel
BY KIM BOLAN AND ROCHELLE BAKER, ABBOTSFORD TIMESJANUARY 20, 2012
The house where a young Abbotsford man was found murdered last weekend
belongs to a member of the Hells Angels.
Ryan Saint-Ange, 21, was discovered dead by a friend on Jan. 14 at a
home he’d been living in the 27700 block of 56th Avenue.
The Bradner-area home is owned by full-patch Hells Angel Michael
Robatzek, according to the Vancouver Sun.
Saint-Ange was living in the home with a number of other people, but
no one else was at the residence when Saint-Ange was discovered.
The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team revealing little about how
or why the young man was murdered.
Despite the location of Saint-Ange’s death, IHIT spokesperson Sgt.
Jennifer Pound said at this point the murder does not seem to be gang-
related.
However, she would not comment on whether the victim was mistakenly
targeted or killed in a dispute.
An autopsy has been conducted but the cause of Saint-Ange’s death
won’t be released, Pound stated in an email.
“I cannot speak to the details as we need to ensure the integrity of
the investigation, and move in a direction that leads us closer to who
is responsible for this murder,” she said.
Saint-Ange had lived in Abbotsford for about two years, according to
Abbotsford Police.
Neither IHIT nor APD would confirm that the home belonged to Robatzek.
However, the APD had attended the home in the past, but not on a
frequent basis.
Saint-Ange had a conviction for trafficking drugs from July 2009 and
had been sentenced to a 10-month conditional sentence.
But at the time of his death, family and friends strongly disputed on-
line allegations on news sites and social networking sites that the
young man was a gangster, saying he was working to turn his life
around.
Facebook tributes to Saint-Ange, who went by the moniker Black Ryan,
recalled the young man as good natured and fun-loving.
Saint-Ange is the first homicide victim in Abbotsford in close to 15
months.
Abbotsford did not record a single homicide in 2011, shedding its
title as Canada's Murder Capital, the result of a series of high
profile gang killings in the last couple of years.
http://twitter.com/RochelleBaker1
http://twitter.com/abbytimes
© Copyright (c) Abbotsford Times
Greg-Also in Whistler recently a Hell's Angel associate had his motor
home fire bombed.
Contact your MP and ask him to have the HAMC banned as a terrorist
org.
If they ban HAMC, then other gangs get stronger.  Someone is always
there to take up the slack.
        What other MC gangs, they were all patched over,...Satan' Choice,
Loners. Bandidos, Outlaws. BDR, PIB, and to many more.
        The other non MC gangs, are cheap thugs who are just TV inspired
punks.
I never mentioned 'other gangs' being specifically MC gangs. As for
other gangs, many are ruthless. Rock Machine, Viet gangs, Chinese
triads...
4***@mydaja.com
2012-01-22 17:27:24 UTC
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Post by Yamy
        The other non MC gangs, are cheap thugs who are just TV inspired
punks.
I never mentioned 'other gangs' being specifically MC gangs. As for
other gangs, many are ruthless. Rock Machine, Viet gangs, Chinese
triads...
He may have been there for protection. Not formal protection, but
thinking no one would mess with him if he was around the local 81.
Who knows.
666
2012-01-24 04:58:33 UTC
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Post by &
        The other non MC gangs, are cheap thugs who are just TV inspired
punks.
I never mentioned 'other gangs' being specifically MC gangs. As for
other gangs, many are ruthless. Rock Machine, Viet gangs, Chinese
triads...
What is it with the Drug/Motorcycle Drug affiliation, HAMC drive
harleys, other than nomads they are not big deal killers.

See Iraq, see Bangladesh, see Cambodia, see 'nam, see Talibans,
see Uganda, see Zimbabwe, see the hoards off bodies, see the criminal
Swats. Nwest, Igtf1/2, see all the Para/Military rogue
vigilante........what do they have to do with Hells Angels motorcycle
clubs...

Otto Friedli HAMC Original Prez 1948 (RIP 2008)
--
**Father to Son in a Facts of Life Lecture**:
Son, someday you will make a girl very happy,
for a short period of time.
Then she will leave you and be with new men who
are ten times better than you.
............These men are called ^BIKERS^........
Greg Carr
2012-01-25 19:43:38 UTC
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        The other non MC gangs, are cheap thugs who are just TV inspired
punks.
I never mentioned 'other gangs' being specifically MC gangs.  As for
other gangs, many are ruthless.  Rock Machine, Viet gangs, Chinese
triads...
        What is it with the Drug/Motorcycle Drug affiliation, HAMC drive
harleys, other than nomads they are not big deal killers.
        See Iraq, see Bangladesh, see Cambodia, see 'nam, see Talibans,
see Uganda, see Zimbabwe, see the hoards off bodies, see the criminal
Swats. Nwest, Igtf1/2, see all the Para/Military rogue
vigilante........what do they have to do with Hells Angels motorcycle
clubs...
Otto Friedli HAMC Original Prez 1948 (RIP 2008)
--
        Son, someday you will make a girl very happy,
for a short period of time.
Then she will leave you and be with new men who
are ten times better than you.
............These men are called ^BIKERS^........
HAMC has been linked to meth, marihuana and MDMA and cocaine and GHB
locally. They turn up in the crime pages every 6 months or so
usu. with a large amount of drugs. HAMC is a major league drug dealer
in Canada.


Abbotsford murder victim killed in house owned by Hells Angel
BY KIM BOLAN AND ROCHELLE BAKER, ABBOTSFORD TIMESJANUARY 20, 2012
The house where a young Abbotsford man was found murdered last
weekend
belongs to a member of the Hells Angels.
Ryan Saint-Ange, 21, was discovered dead by a friend on Jan. 14 at a
home he’d been living in the 27700 block of 56th Avenue.
The Bradner-area home is owned by full-patch Hells Angel Michael
Robatzek, according to the Vancouver Sun.
Saint-Ange was living in the home with a number of other people, but
no one else was at the residence when Saint-Ange was discovered.
The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team revealing little about how
or why the young man was murdered.
Despite the location of Saint-Ange’s death, IHIT spokesperson Sgt.
Jennifer Pound said at this point the murder does not seem to be
gang-
related.
However, she would not comment on whether the victim was mistakenly
targeted or killed in a dispute.
An autopsy has been conducted but the cause of Saint-Ange’s death
won’t be released, Pound stated in an email.
“I cannot speak to the details as we need to ensure the integrity of
the investigation, and move in a direction that leads us closer to
who
is responsible for this murder,” she said.
Saint-Ange had lived in Abbotsford for about two years, according to
Abbotsford Police.
Neither IHIT nor APD would confirm that the home belonged to
Robatzek.
However, the APD had attended the home in the past, but not on a
frequent basis.
Saint-Ange had a conviction for trafficking drugs from July 2009 and
had been sentenced to a 10-month conditional sentence.
But at the time of his death, family and friends strongly disputed
on-
line allegations on news sites and social networking sites that the
young man was a gangster, saying he was working to turn his life
around.
Facebook tributes to Saint-Ange, who went by the moniker Black Ryan,
recalled the young man as good natured and fun-loving.
Saint-Ange is the first homicide victim in Abbotsford in close to 15
months.
Abbotsford did not record a single homicide in 2011, shedding its
title as Canada's Murder Capital, the result of a series of high
profile gang killings in the last couple of years.
***@abbotsfordtimes.com
http://twitter.com/RochelleBaker1
http://twitter.com/abbytimes
© Copyright (c) Abbotsford Times
Greg-Also in Whistler recently a Hell's Angel associate had his motor
home fire bombed.
Contact your MP and ask him to have the HAMC banned as a terrorist
org.

§pamÐuster
2012-01-22 00:16:35 UTC
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Abbotsford murder victim killed in house owned by Hells Angel


BY KIM BOLAN AND ROCHELLE BAKER, ABBOTSFORD TIMESJANUARY 20, 2012





The house where a young Abbotsford man was found murdered last weekend
belongs to a member of the Hells Angels.

Ryan Saint-Ange, 21, was discovered dead by a friend on Jan. 14 at a
home he’d been living in the 27700 block of 56th Avenue.

The Bradner-area home is owned by full-patch Hells Angel Michael
Robatzek, according to the Vancouver Sun.

Saint-Ange was living in the home with a number of other people, but
no one else was at the residence when Saint-Ange was discovered.

The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team revealing little about how
or why the young man was murdered.

Despite the location of Saint-Ange’s death, IHIT spokesperson Sgt.
Jennifer Pound said at this point the murder does not seem to be gang-
related.

However, she would not comment on whether the victim was mistakenly
targeted or killed in a dispute.

An autopsy has been conducted but the cause of Saint-Ange’s death
won’t be released, Pound stated in an email.

“I cannot speak to the details as we need to ensure the integrity of
the investigation, and move in a direction that leads us closer to who
is responsible for this murder,” she said.

Saint-Ange had lived in Abbotsford for about two years, according to
Abbotsford Police.

Neither IHIT nor APD would confirm that the home belonged to Robatzek.

However, the APD had attended the home in the past, but not on a
frequent basis.

Saint-Ange had a conviction for trafficking drugs from July 2009 and
had been sentenced to a 10-month conditional sentence.

But at the time of his death, family and friends strongly disputed on-
line allegations on news sites and social networking sites that the
young man was a gangster, saying he was working to turn his life
around.

Facebook tributes to Saint-Ange, who went by the moniker Black Ryan,
recalled the young man as good natured and fun-loving.

Saint-Ange is the first homicide victim in Abbotsford in close to 15
months.

Abbotsford did not record a single homicide in 2011, shedding its
title as Canada's Murder Capital, the result of a series of high
profile gang killings in the last couple of years.

***@abbotsfordtimes.com

http://twitter.com/RochelleBaker1

http://twitter.com/abbytimes

© Copyright (c) Abbotsford Times

Greg-Also in Whistler recently a Hell's Angel associate had his motor
home fire bombed.

Contact your MP and ask him to have the HAMC banned as a terrorist
org.
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