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Lookin' at you, TomP
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M.I.Wakefield
2018-04-01 21:52:20 UTC
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Russia unleashed an “extensive” disinformation operation in Britain after
the Skripal spy attack, with thousands of suspected robotic accounts
spreading doubt and conspiracy on the internet, according to monitoring
reports prepared for the government.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/2-800-russian-bots-sowed-confusion-after-poison-attacks-zf6lvb3nc
TomP
2018-04-02 03:57:54 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Russia unleashed an “extensive” disinformation operation in Britain
after the Skripal spy attack, with thousands of suspected robotic
accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy on the internet, according to
monitoring reports prepared for the government.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/2-800-russian-bots-sowed-confusion-after-poison-attacks-zf6lvb3nc
I'm flattered!
Unfortunately the link you provided is one where you have to sign up to
get the whole story. The quote you supplied is different from the first
line of this story. It reads "Russia unleashed an “extensive”
disinformation operation in Britain after the Salisbury spy attack, with
thousands of SUSPECTED ROBOTIC accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy
on the internet, OFFICIALS BELIEVE."
I don't know what misinformation is being spread. Is it their version of
the story, are they pointing the finger somewhere else or are they
admitting guilt by reacting like this?
All I said was that the world's reaction to this poisoning against
Russia was very unusual and there may be more to this than what is being
reported.
Dhu on Gate
2018-04-02 10:47:37 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Russia unleashed an “extensive” disinformation operation in Britain
after the Skripal spy attack, with thousands of suspected robotic
accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy on the internet, according to
monitoring reports prepared for the government.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/2-800-russian-bots-sowed-confusion-after-poison-attacks-zf6lvb3nc
I'm flattered!
Unfortunately the link you provided is one where you have to sign up to
get the whole story. The quote you supplied is different from the first
line of this story. It reads "Russia unleashed an “extensive”
disinformation operation in Britain after the Salisbury spy attack, with
thousands of SUSPECTED ROBOTIC accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy
on the internet, OFFICIALS BELIEVE."
I don't know what misinformation is being spread. Is it their version of
the story, are they pointing the finger somewhere else or are they
admitting guilt by reacting like this?
All I said was that the world's reaction to this poisoning against
Russia was very unusual and there may be more to this than what is being
reported.
When Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned it was with an Isotopic mixture of
polonium that could only be sourced within Russia and required the cooperation
of multiple levels of Russia's State and Technical apparatus: there was
an intention to make it very clear that it was a sanctioned execution.

Using a discontinued chemical warfare toxin that a number of Military-Industrials
have experimented with and could easily possess, does _not_ satisfy any similar
purpose. There are, however, a number of potentially rogue actors both in Russia
and elsewhere that might have a real interest in the resumption of cold war hostilities.

Dhu
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglaise.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)

http://babayaga.neotext.ca/PublicKeys/Duncan_Patton_a_Campbell_pubkey.txt
Dhu on Gate
2018-04-03 22:57:15 UTC
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Post by TomP
Post by M.I.Wakefield
Russia unleashed an “extensive” disinformation operation in Britain
after the Skripal spy attack, with thousands of suspected robotic
accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy on the internet, according to
monitoring reports prepared for the government.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/2-800-russian-bots-sowed-confusion-after-poison-attacks-zf6lvb3nc
I'm flattered!
Unfortunately the link you provided is one where you have to sign up to
get the whole story. The quote you supplied is different from the first
line of this story. It reads "Russia unleashed an “extensive”
disinformation operation in Britain after the Salisbury spy attack, with
thousands of SUSPECTED ROBOTIC accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy
on the internet, OFFICIALS BELIEVE."
I don't know what misinformation is being spread. Is it their version of
the story, are they pointing the finger somewhere else or are they
admitting guilt by reacting like this?
All I said was that the world's reaction to this poisoning against
Russia was very unusual and there may be more to this than what is being
reported.
When Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned it was with an Isotopic mixture of
polonium that could only be sourced within Russia and required the cooperation
of multiple levels of Russia's State and Technical apparatus: there was
an intention to make it very clear that it was a sanctioned execution.
Using a discontinued chemical warfare toxin that a number of Military-Industrials
have experimented with and could easily possess, does _not_ satisfy any similar
purpose. There are, however, a number of potentially rogue actors both in Russia
and elsewhere that might have a real interest in the resumption of cold war hostilities.
Dhu
It turns out that Porton Down sez they can't be certain of a Russian origin:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/salisbury-poisoning-porton-down-can-t-verify-nerve-agent-is-russian-1-4718043

Dhu
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglaise.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)

http://babayaga.neotext.ca/PublicKeys/Duncan_Patton_a_Campbell_pubkey.txt
TomP
2018-04-04 00:18:35 UTC
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Post by TomP
Post by M.I.Wakefield
Russia unleashed an “extensive” disinformation operation in Britain
after the Skripal spy attack, with thousands of suspected robotic
accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy on the internet, according to
monitoring reports prepared for the government.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/2-800-russian-bots-sowed-confusion-after-poison-attacks-zf6lvb3nc
I'm flattered!
Unfortunately the link you provided is one where you have to sign up to
get the whole story. The quote you supplied is different from the first
line of this story. It reads "Russia unleashed an “extensive”
disinformation operation in Britain after the Salisbury spy attack, with
thousands of SUSPECTED ROBOTIC accounts spreading doubt and conspiracy
on the internet, OFFICIALS BELIEVE."
I don't know what misinformation is being spread. Is it their version of
the story, are they pointing the finger somewhere else or are they
admitting guilt by reacting like this?
All I said was that the world's reaction to this poisoning against
Russia was very unusual and there may be more to this than what is being
reported.
When Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned it was with an Isotopic mixture of
polonium that could only be sourced within Russia and required the cooperation
of multiple levels of Russia's State and Technical apparatus: there was
an intention to make it very clear that it was a sanctioned execution.
Using a discontinued chemical warfare toxin that a number of Military-Industrials
have experimented with and could easily possess, does _not_ satisfy any similar
purpose. There are, however, a number of potentially rogue actors both in Russia
and elsewhere that might have a real interest in the resumption of cold war hostilities.
Dhu
https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/salisbury-poisoning-porton-down-can-t-verify-nerve-agent-is-russian-1-4718043
Dhu
The Russians are making some good points.

"Russia’s embassy in London published a series of “questions without
answers”, asking why hospital staff happened to have an antidote to the
novichok nerve agent used in the attempted murder."

"Lavrov also claimed the attack on the Skripals was not sophisticated,
saying that if it had been, the victims would have died immediately. “If
I understand correctly, sophisticated attacks usually lead to instant
death,” he said."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/02/salisbury-attack-sites-decontamination-russia-sergei-skripal
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