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Roy Moore Kinda Admits He Was "Dating" Teenagers
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AlleyCat
2017-11-12 05:54:30 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>

So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.

I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.

I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?

If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
Alan Baker
2017-11-12 06:00:36 UTC
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On 2017-11-11 9:54 PM, AlleyCat wrote:
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> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
>
>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>
>
> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.
>
> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>
> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>
> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>

Except Corfman was FOURTEEN.
AlleyCat
2017-11-12 06:12:21 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:36 -0800, Alan Baker says...

> > If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
> > let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
> >
>
> Except Corfman was FOURTEEN.

STILL not illegal to marry UNDER the age of 14.

14.... hmmm... 14... let's see now. Who here is pissing and moaning about
Jerry Lee Lewis?

or

New Hampshire?

or

New York?


Pay attention:

State-by-State Teen Marriage License Laws

Alabama: If either of you are under eighteen (18), you will need a
certified copy of your birth certificate. Both parents must be present
with identification, or if you have a legal guardian they must be present
with a court order and identification.

Individuals under the age of 14 may not marry.

New Hampshire: The law is complicated in New Hampshire. Individuals under
the age of 18 may not marry in New Hampshire without parental approval and
a judicial waiver. Brides must be at least 13 years of age and grooms must
be at least 14 years of age before their parents can apply for a judicial
waiver.

New York: If you are 16 or 17 years of age, you will need to have a
completed parental consent form filled out by both parents. If you are
either 14 or 15 years of age, you will need to show the written consent of
both parents
Alan Baker
2017-11-12 06:19:23 UTC
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On 2017-11-11 10:12 PM, AlleyCat wrote:
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> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:36 -0800, Alan Baker says...
>
>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>>>
>>
>> Except Corfman was FOURTEEN.
>
> STILL not illegal to marry UNDER the age of 14.
>
> 14.... hmmm... 14... let's see now. Who here is pissing and moaning about
> Jerry Lee Lewis?
>
> or
>
> New Hampshire?
>
> or
>
> New York?
>
>
> Pay attention:
>
> State-by-State Teen Marriage License Laws
>
> Alabama: If either of you are under eighteen (18), you will need a
> certified copy of your birth certificate. Both parents must be present
> with identification, or if you have a legal guardian they must be present
> with a court order and identification.
>
> Individuals under the age of 14 may not marry.
>
> New Hampshire: The law is complicated in New Hampshire. Individuals under
> the age of 18 may not marry in New Hampshire without parental approval and
> a judicial waiver. Brides must be at least 13 years of age and grooms must
> be at least 14 years of age before their parents can apply for a judicial
> waiver.
>
> New York: If you are 16 or 17 years of age, you will need to have a
> completed parental consent form filled out by both parents. If you are
> either 14 or 15 years of age, you will need to show the written consent of
> both parents
>

Only this wasn't about marriage.
Dhu on Gate
2017-11-12 07:38:58 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:19:23 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:

> On 2017-11-11 10:12 PM, AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:36 -0800, Alan Baker says...
>>
>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Except Corfman was FOURTEEN.
>>
>> STILL not illegal to marry UNDER the age of 14.
>>
>> 14.... hmmm... 14... let's see now. Who here is pissing and moaning about
>> Jerry Lee Lewis?
>>
>> or
>>
>> New Hampshire?
>>
>> or
>>
>> New York?
>>
>>
>> Pay attention:
>>
>> State-by-State Teen Marriage License Laws
>>
>> Alabama: If either of you are under eighteen (18), you will need a
>> certified copy of your birth certificate. Both parents must be present
>> with identification, or if you have a legal guardian they must be present
>> with a court order and identification.
>>
>> Individuals under the age of 14 may not marry.
>>
>> New Hampshire: The law is complicated in New Hampshire. Individuals under
>> the age of 18 may not marry in New Hampshire without parental approval and
>> a judicial waiver. Brides must be at least 13 years of age and grooms must
>> be at least 14 years of age before their parents can apply for a judicial
>> waiver.
>>
>> New York: If you are 16 or 17 years of age, you will need to have a
>> completed parental consent form filled out by both parents. If you are
>> either 14 or 15 years of age, you will need to show the written consent of
>> both parents
>>
>
> Only this wasn't about marriage.

It's about a _serial_ predator of young women.

Dhu

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M.I.Wakefield
2017-11-12 15:03:23 UTC
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"Dhu on Gate" wrote in message news:ou8tqh$2ov$***@gioia.aioe.org...

> It's about a _serial_ predator of young women.

Former Roy Moore co-worker says it was 'common knowledge' he dated teens

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/11/former_roy_moore_co-worker_say.html

When he was on Hannity, Moore said “I'm sure in the next four weeks, they're
going to come out with another article.”

He *knows* that there are more women out there that the Washington Post
didn't find.
wulfenite
2017-11-12 17:16:32 UTC
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On 11/12/2017 8:03 AM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
> "Dhu on Gate"  wrote in message news:ou8tqh$2ov$***@gioia.aioe.org...
>
>> It's about a _serial_ predator of young women.
>
> Former Roy Moore co-worker says it was 'common knowledge' he dated teens
>
> http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/11/former_roy_moore_co-worker_say.html
>
>
> When he was on Hannity, Moore said “I'm sure in the next four weeks,
> they're going to come out with another article.”
>
> He *knows* that there are more women out there that the Washington Post
> didn't find.

You make the most inescapably uneducated accusations, period.


It's bad enough you are hopelessly ADDICTED to US politics, but your
propensity to outright LIE about them is sinful!

The detritus of your emotionally knee-jerked proclamations makes you an
absolute buffoon!

Grow a life, at least pretend to act like a patriotic Canucklehead (if
there is such a thing).

You ignore your own simple dull nation, absorb your mind into ours.

Literally you dismiss your own walk-in beer cooler of a country as
insignificant to the point you refuse to even engage in commentary or
analysis of your own politics.

You evince the classic Canuck "widdle brudda" mentality, always chasing
after the USA in a desperate attempt to coattail on OUR national affairs.

You demonstrate how bereft Canucks are of any national pride and how
desperately you need to use the USA as a whipping post to excuse
yourselves from your own national blunders and dearth of presence on the
global stage.

It must SUCK to be a Canuck, for sure!
Dhu on Gate
2017-11-12 20:40:39 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:16:32 -0700, wulfenite wrote:

> On 11/12/2017 8:03 AM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
>> "Dhu on Gate"  wrote in message news:ou8tqh$2ov$***@gioia.aioe.org...
>>
>>> It's about a _serial_ predator of young women.
>>
>> Former Roy Moore co-worker says it was 'common knowledge' he dated teens
>>
>> http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/11/former_roy_moore_co-worker_say.html
>>
>>
>> When he was on Hannity, Moore said “I'm sure in the next four weeks,
>> they're going to come out with another article.”
>>
>> He *knows* that there are more women out there that the Washington Post
>> didn't find.
>
> You make the most inescapably uneducated accusations, period.
>
>
> It's bad enough you are hopelessly ADDICTED to US politics, but your
> propensity to outright LIE about them is sinful!
>
> The detritus of your emotionally knee-jerked proclamations makes you an
> absolute buffoon!
>
> Grow a life, at least pretend to act like a patriotic Canucklehead (if
> there is such a thing).
>
> You ignore your own simple dull nation, absorb your mind into ours.
>
> Literally you dismiss your own walk-in beer cooler of a country as
> insignificant to the point you refuse to even engage in commentary or
> analysis of your own politics.
>
> You evince the classic Canuck "widdle brudda" mentality, always chasing
> after the USA in a desperate attempt to coattail on OUR national affairs.
>
> You demonstrate how bereft Canucks are of any national pride and how
> desperately you need to use the USA as a whipping post to excuse
> yourselves from your own national blunders and dearth of presence on the
> global stage.
>
> It must SUCK to be a Canuck, for sure!

It must surely suck to be you, then.
That envy will turn yer gills green, dudette.

Dhu


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C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)

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wulfenite
2017-11-13 00:00:40 UTC
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On 11/12/2017 1:40 PM, Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:16:32 -0700, wulfenite wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2017 8:03 AM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
>>> "Dhu on Gate"  wrote in message news:ou8tqh$2ov$***@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>
>>>> It's about a _serial_ predator of young women.
>>>
>>> Former Roy Moore co-worker says it was 'common knowledge' he dated teens
>>>
>>> http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/11/former_roy_moore_co-worker_say.html
>>>
>>>
>>> When he was on Hannity, Moore said “I'm sure in the next four weeks,
>>> they're going to come out with another article.”
>>>
>>> He *knows* that there are more women out there that the Washington Post
>>> didn't find.
>>
>> You make the most inescapably uneducated accusations, period.
>>
>>
>> It's bad enough you are hopelessly ADDICTED to US politics, but your
>> propensity to outright LIE about them is sinful!
>>
>> The detritus of your emotionally knee-jerked proclamations makes you an
>> absolute buffoon!
>>
>> Grow a life, at least pretend to act like a patriotic Canucklehead (if
>> there is such a thing).
>>
>> You ignore your own simple dull nation, absorb your mind into ours.
>>
>> Literally you dismiss your own walk-in beer cooler of a country as
>> insignificant to the point you refuse to even engage in commentary or
>> analysis of your own politics.
>>
>> You evince the classic Canuck "widdle brudda" mentality, always chasing
>> after the USA in a desperate attempt to coattail on OUR national affairs.
>>
>> You demonstrate how bereft Canucks are of any national pride and how
>> desperately you need to use the USA as a whipping post to excuse
>> yourselves from your own national blunders and dearth of presence on the
>> global stage.
>>
>> It must SUCK to be a Canuck, for sure!
>
> It must surely suck to be you, then.
> That envy will turn yer gills green, dudette.
>
> Dhu
>
>
Hard to envy frozen meat like canucks are...
m***@gmail.com
2017-11-13 21:29:15 UTC
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On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 1:12:26 AM UTC-5, AlleyCat wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:36 -0800, Alan Baker says...
>
> > > If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
> > > let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
> > >
> >
> > Except Corfman was FOURTEEN.
>
> STILL not illegal to marry UNDER the age of 14.
>
> 14.... hmmm... 14... let's see now. Who here is pissing and moaning about
> Jerry Lee Lewis?
>
> or
>
> New Hampshire?
>
> or
>
> New York?
>
>
> Pay attention:
>
> State-by-State Teen Marriage License Laws
>
> Alabama: If either of you are under eighteen (18), you will need a
> certified copy of your birth certificate. Both parents must be present
> with identification, or if you have a legal guardian they must be present
> with a court order and identification.
>
> Individuals under the age of 14 may not marry.
>
> New Hampshire: The law is complicated in New Hampshire. Individuals under
> the age of 18 may not marry in New Hampshire without parental approval and
> a judicial waiver. Brides must be at least 13 years of age and grooms must
> be at least 14 years of age before their parents can apply for a judicial
> waiver.
>
> New York: If you are 16 or 17 years of age, you will need to have a
> completed parental consent form filled out by both parents. If you are
> either 14 or 15 years of age, you will need to show the written consent of
> both parents

You do realize that Shitstain Baker is a self-proclaimed expert at EVERYTHING?

IT is a Jack-off of all trades, a masturbator.
Dhu on Gate
2017-11-14 17:01:54 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:29:15 -0800, michaelunowho wrote:

> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 1:12:26 AM UTC-5, AlleyCat wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:36 -0800, Alan Baker says...
>>
>> > > If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you,
>> > > AT ALL,
>> > > let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>> > > here.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Except Corfman was FOURTEEN.
>>
>> STILL not illegal to marry UNDER the age of 14.
>>
>> 14.... hmmm... 14... let's see now. Who here is pissing and moaning
>> about Jerry Lee Lewis?
>>
>> or
>>
>> New Hampshire?
>>
>> or
>>
>> New York?
>>
>>
>> Pay attention:
>>
>> State-by-State Teen Marriage License Laws
>>
>> Alabama: If either of you are under eighteen (18), you will need a
>> certified copy of your birth certificate. Both parents must be present
>> with identification, or if you have a legal guardian they must be
>> present with a court order and identification.
>>
>> Individuals under the age of 14 may not marry.
>>
>> New Hampshire: The law is complicated in New Hampshire. Individuals
>> under the age of 18 may not marry in New Hampshire without parental
>> approval and a judicial waiver. Brides must be at least 13 years of age
>> and grooms must be at least 14 years of age before their parents can
>> apply for a judicial waiver.
>>
>> New York: If you are 16 or 17 years of age, you will need to have a
>> completed parental consent form filled out by both parents. If you are
>> either 14 or 15 years of age, you will need to show the written consent
>> of both parents
>
> You do realize that Shitstain Baker is a self-proclaimed expert at
> EVERYTHING?
>
> IT is a Jack-off of all trades, a masturbator.

More projection. You just can't get offa that pony, eh?

Dhu


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Governor Swill
2017-11-16 19:55:15 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 00:12:21 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:

>
>On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:36 -0800, Alan Baker says...
>
>> > If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
>> > let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>> >
>>
>> Except Corfman was FOURTEEN.
>
>STILL not illegal to marry UNDER the age of 14.
>
>14.... hmmm... 14... let's see now. Who here is pissing and moaning about
>Jerry Lee Lewis?

He's not running for public office. An excellent point though.
Southerners have a longstanding tradition of marrying relatives. It's
rather Islamic, really. Guys in the deep south love to marry girls as
soon as they're old enough to have regular periods.

Swill

>
>or
>
>New Hampshire?
>
>or
>
>New York?
>
>
>Pay attention:
>
>State-by-State Teen Marriage License Laws
>
>Alabama: If either of you are under eighteen (18), you will need a
>certified copy of your birth certificate. Both parents must be present
>with identification, or if you have a legal guardian they must be present
>with a court order and identification.
>
>Individuals under the age of 14 may not marry.
>
>New Hampshire: The law is complicated in New Hampshire. Individuals under
>the age of 18 may not marry in New Hampshire without parental approval and
>a judicial waiver. Brides must be at least 13 years of age and grooms must
>be at least 14 years of age before their parents can apply for a judicial
>waiver.
>
>New York: If you are 16 or 17 years of age, you will need to have a
>completed parental consent form filled out by both parents. If you are
>either 14 or 15 years of age, you will need to show the written consent of
>both parents
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wulfenite
2017-11-16 20:33:58 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 12:55 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> He's not running for public office. An excellent point though.

http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg


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Siri Cruise
2017-11-16 21:22:00 UTC
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> >14.... hmmm... 14... let's see now. Who here is pissing and moaning about
> >Jerry Lee Lewis?
>
> He's not running for public office. An excellent point though.
> Southerners have a longstanding tradition of marrying relatives. It's
> rather Islamic, really. Guys in the deep south love to marry girls as
> soon as they're old enough to have regular periods.

Actually premenustral girls. Since Mohammed banged a nine year old, moslems
believe banging nine year olds is holy. Koran provisions for divorcing a nine
year old include accounting for she might not be pregnant and still not
menustrating.

#Classy. #Bigly classy.

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wulfenite
2017-11-16 21:42:35 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 2:22 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Since Mohammed banged a nine year old, moslems
> believe banging nine year olds is holy.

Is your meth kicking in Kells?
Governor Swill
2017-11-16 19:51:30 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:

>
>On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
>
>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>
>
>So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
>of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.
>
>I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>
>I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>
>If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
>let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.

I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
seducing minors.

Swill
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wulfenite
2017-11-16 20:33:13 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
>>
>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>
>>
>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.
>>
>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>
>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>
>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>
> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
> seducing minors.
>

Let's start here:

http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg

Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
Alan Baker
2017-11-16 20:38:53 UTC
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On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>
>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>
>>>
>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and
>>> 19. Age
>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>
>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>
>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>>
>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT
>>> ALL,
>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>>
>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>> seducing minors.
>>
>
> Let's start here:
>
> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>
>
> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!

It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
wulfenite
2017-11-16 21:37:03 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>
>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and
>>>> 19. Age
>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>
>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>
>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>>>
>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you,
>>>> AT ALL,
>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>>>
>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>> seducing minors.
>>>
>>
>> Let's start here:
>>
>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>
>>
>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>
> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?

Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make apologies for?

READ:

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s
Nothing Funny About It
By Leeann Tweeden

In December of 2006, I embarked on my ninth USO Tour to entertain our
troops, my eighth to the Middle East since the 9/11 attacks. My father
served in Vietnam and my then-boyfriend (and now husband, Chris) is a
pilot in the Air Force, so bringing a ‘little piece of home’ to
servicemembers stationed far away from their families was both my
passion and my privilege.


Also on the trip were country music artists Darryl Worley, Mark Wills,
Keni Thomas, and some cheerleaders from the Dallas Cowboys. The
headliner was comedian and now-senator, Al Franken.

Franken had written some skits for the show and brought props and
costumes to go along with them. Like many USO shows before and since,
the skits were full of sexual innuendo geared toward a young, male audience.

As a TV host and sports broadcaster, as well as a model familiar to the
audience from the covers of FHM, Maxim and Playboy, I was only expecting
to emcee and introduce the acts, but Franken said he had written a part
for me that he thought would be funny, and I agreed to play along.

When I saw the script, Franken had written a moment when his character
comes at me for a ‘kiss’. I suspected what he was after, but I figured I
could turn my head at the last minute, or put my hand over his mouth, to
get more laughs from the crowd.

On the day of the show Franken and I were alone backstage going over our
lines one last time. He said to me, “We need to rehearse the kiss.” I
laughed and ignored him. Then he said it again. I said something like,
‘Relax Al, this isn’t SNL…we don’t need to rehearse the kiss.’

He continued to insist, and I was beginning to get uncomfortable.

He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we
must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We
did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand
on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively
stuck his tongue in my mouth.

I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest
and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about
it the next time.

I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast
as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.

I felt disgusted and violated.

Not long after, I performed the skit as written, carefully turning my
head so he couldn’t kiss me on the lips.

No one saw what happened backstage. I didn’t tell the Sergeant Major of
the Army, who was the sponsor of the tour. I didn’t tell our USO rep
what happened.

At the time I didn’t want to cause trouble. We were in the middle of a
war zone, it was the first show of our Holiday tour, I was a
professional, and I could take care of myself. I told a few of the
others on the tour what Franken had done and they knew how I felt about it.

I tried to let it go, but I was angry.

Other than our dialogue on stage, I never had a voluntary conversation
with Al Franken again. I avoided him as much as possible and made sure I
was never alone with him again for the rest of the tour.

Franken repaid me with petty insults, including drawing devil horns on
at least one of the headshots I was autographing for the troops.

But he didn’t stop there.

The tour wrapped and on Christmas Eve we began the 36-hour trip home to
L.A. After 2 weeks of grueling travel and performing I was exhausted.
When our C-17 cargo plane took off from Afghanistan I immediately fell
asleep, even though I was still wearing my flak vest and Kevlar helmet.

It wasn’t until I was back in the US and looking through the CD of
photos we were given by the photographer that I saw this one:

I couldn’t believe it. He groped me, without my consent, while I was asleep.

I felt violated all over again. Embarrassed. Belittled. Humiliated.

How dare anyone grab my breasts like this and think it’s funny?

I told my husband everything that happened and showed him the picture.

I wanted to shout my story to the world with a megaphone to anyone who
would listen, but even as angry as I was, I was worried about the
potential backlash and damage going public might have on my career as a
broadcaster.

But that was then, this is now. I’m no longer afraid.

Today, I am the news anchor on McIntyre in the Morning on KABC Radio in
Los Angeles. My colleagues are some of the most supportive people I’ve
ever worked with in my career. Like everyone in the media, we’ve been
reporting on the Harvey Weinstein sexual misconduct allegations since
they broke, and the flood of similar stories that have come out about
others.

A few weeks ago, we had California Congresswoman Jackie Speier on the
show and she told us her story of being sexually assaulted when she was
a young Congressional aide. She described how a powerful man in the
office where she worked ‘held her face, kissed her and stuck his tongue
in her mouth.’

At that moment, I thought to myself, Al Franken did that exact same
thing to me.

I had locked up those memories of helplessness and violation for a long
time, but they all came rushing back to me and my hands clinched into
fists like it was yesterday.

I’m still angry at what Al Franken did to me.

Every time I hear his voice or see his face, I am angry. I am angry that
I did his stupid skit for the rest of that tour. I am angry that I
didn’t call him out in front of everyone when I had the microphone in my
hand every night after that. I wanted to. But I didn’t want to rock the
boat. I was there to entertain the troops and make sure they forgot
about where they were for a few hours. Someday, I thought to myself, I
would tell my story.

That day is now.

Senator Franken, you wrote the script. But there’s nothing funny about
sexual assault.

You wrote the scene that would include you kissing me and then
relentlessly badgered me into ‘rehearsing’ the kiss with you backstage
when we were alone.

You knew exactly what you were doing. You forcibly kissed me without my
consent, grabbed my breasts while I was sleeping and had someone take a
photo of you doing it, knowing I would see it later, and be ashamed.

While debating whether or not to go public, I even thought to myself, so
much worse has happened to so many others, maybe my story isn’t worth
telling? But my story is worth telling.

Not just because 2017 is not 2006, or because I am much more secure in
my career now than I was then, and not because I’m still angry.

I’m telling my story because there may be others.

I want to have the same effect on them that Congresswoman Jackie Speier
had on me. I want them, and all the other victims of sexual assault, to
be able to speak out immediately, and not keep their stories –and their
anger– locked up inside for years, or decades.

I want the days of silence to be over forever.

Leeann Tweeden is morning news anchor on TalkRadio 790 KABC in Los Angeles
Alan Baker
2017-11-16 23:09:07 UTC
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On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and
>>>>> 19. Age
>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>
>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>>>>
>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you,
>>>>> AT ALL,
>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let's start here:
>>>
>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>
>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>
> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make apologies for?
>
> READ:
>
> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>
> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s

<snip>

How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old girl?
wulfenite
2017-11-17 00:09:00 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and
>>>>>> 19. Age
>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you,
>>>>>> AT ALL,
>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>
>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>
>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>
>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make apologies
>> for?
>>
>> READ:
>>
>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>
>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s
>
> <snip>
>
> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old girl?
>

How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old heasrsay,
ASSHOLE???

I so want your neck in my hands!
Alan Baker
2017-11-17 00:23:08 UTC
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On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>
>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>
>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>> apologies for?
>>>
>>> READ:
>>>
>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>
>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old girl?
>>
>
> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old heasrsay,
> ASSHOLE???

It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
different women.

>
> I so want your neck in my hands!

Awwww...

I don't swing that way, sorry.
wulfenite
2017-11-17 15:28:01 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>
>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>> apologies for?
>>>>
>>>> READ:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>
>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old
>>> girl?
>>>
>>
>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>
> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
> different women.

YOU MORON!

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay

Hearsay
A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence to
prove the truth of the matter asserted.

>>
>> I so want your neck in my hands!
>
> Awwww...
>
> I don't swing that way, sorry.

This will work:


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Alan Baker
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On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed
>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>
>>>>> READ:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>
>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>> There’s
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old
>>>> girl?
>>>>
>>>
>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>
>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>> different women.
>
> YOU MORON!
>
> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>
> Hearsay
> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence to
> prove the truth of the matter asserted.

And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.


Perhaps you could learn something of the language before we proceed.
wulfenite
2017-11-17 18:47:53 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed
>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old
>>>>> girl?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>
>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>> different women.
>>
>> YOU MORON!
>>
>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>
>> Hearsay
>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence to
>> prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>
> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.

Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!

You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay

Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
: something heard from another person : something that you have been told
> Perhaps you could learn something of the language before we proceed.

Perhaps you can STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR WOMAN ABUSE, you exterminable
vermin!

I really want to see you:




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Alan Baker
2017-11-17 18:53:47 UTC
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On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means
>>>>>>>>>>> 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>
>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>> different women.
>>>
>>> YOU MORON!
>>>
>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>
>>> Hearsay
>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence to
>>> prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>
>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>
> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>
> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>
> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
> : something heard from another person : something that you have been told

Right. And this isn't that.

We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
telling us what they've said.

>> Perhaps you could learn something of the language before we proceed.
>
> Perhaps you can STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR WOMAN ABUSE, you exterminable
> vermin!
>
> I really want to see you:
>
>
>
>
>                               /`._      ,
>                              /     \   / \
>                              ) ,-==-> /\/ \
>                               )__\\/ // \  |
>                              /  /' \//   | |
>                             /  (  /|/    | /
>                            /     //|    /,'
>                           // /  (( )    '
>                          //     // \    |
>                         //     (#) |
>                        /        )\/ \   '       ____
>                       /        /#/   )         /,.__\__,,--=_,
>                      /         \#\  /)      __/ + \____,--==<
>                      //________/#/_/'      (\_\__+/_,   ---<^
>                                                     '==--=='
>

That's an ASCII art failure...
wulfenite
2017-11-17 20:20:35 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 11:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means
>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested
>>>>>>>>>>>> in you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>> different women.
>>>>
>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>
>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>
>>>> Hearsay
>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence
>>>> to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>
>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>>
>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>
>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>
>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>> : something heard from another person : something that you have been told
>
> Right. And this isn't that.

Oh?

So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?
> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
> telling us what they've said.

You and I (and everyone else) "heard [it] from another person".

Period.

Hearsay.

>>> Perhaps you could learn something of the language before we proceed.
>>
>> Perhaps you can STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR WOMAN ABUSE, you exterminable
>> vermin!
>>
>> I really want to see you:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                /`._      ,
>>                               /     \   / \
>>                               ) ,-==-> /\/ \
>>                                )__\\/ // \  |
>>                               /  /' \//   | |
>>                              /  (  /|/    | /
>>                             /     //|    /,'
>>                            // /  (( )    '
>>                           //     // \    |
>>                          //     (#) |
>>                         /        )\/ \   '       ____
>>                        /        /#/   )         /,.__\__,,--=_,
>>                       /         \#\  /)      __/ + \____,--==<
>>                       //________/#/_/'      (\_\__+/_,   ---<^
>>                                                      '==--=='
>>
>
> That's an ASCII art failure...

You're jealous.



_______
|/ |
| (_)
| \|/
| |
| / \
|
____|____
Alan Baker
2017-11-17 20:24:04 UTC
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On 2017-11-17 12:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/17/2017 11:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>>
>>>>> Hearsay
>>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence
>>>>> to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>>
>>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>>>
>>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>>
>>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>>
>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>
>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have been
>>> told
>>
>> Right. And this isn't that.
>
> Oh?

Yes.

>
> So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?

Where is yours in all the things you whine about?

>> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
>> telling us what they've said.
>
> You and I (and everyone else)  "heard [it] from another person".
>
> Period.
>
> Hearsay.
>

Then by that standard, you can never post anything you read or hear about...

...unless it is from the person involved directly.

So your posts about Franken kind of disappear, don't they?

>>>> Perhaps you could learn something of the language before we proceed.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you can STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR WOMAN ABUSE, you exterminable
>>> vermin!
>>>
>>> I really want to see you:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                /`._      ,
>>>                               /     \   / \
>>>                               ) ,-==-> /\/ \
>>>                                )__\\/ // \  |
>>>                               /  /' \//   | |
>>>                              /  (  /|/    | /
>>>                             /     //|    /,'
>>>                            // /  (( )    '
>>>                           //     // \    |
>>>                          //     (#) |
>>>                         /        )\/ \   '       ____
>>>                        /        /#/   )         /,.__\__,,--=_,
>>>                       /         \#\  /)      __/ + \____,--==<
>>>                       //________/#/_/'      (\_\__+/_,   ---<^
>>>                                                      '==--=='
>>>
>>
>> That's an ASCII art failure...
>
> You're jealous.
>
>
>
>       _______
>      |/      |
>      |      (_)
>      |      \|/
>      |       |
>      |      / \
>      |
>  ____|____

LOL!
wulfenite
2017-11-17 23:11:20 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 1:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-17 12:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/17/2017 11:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hearsay
>>>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence
>>>>>> to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>>>
>>>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>>>>
>>>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>>>
>>>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>
>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have been
>>>> told
>>>
>>> Right. And this isn't that.
>>
>> Oh?
>
> Yes.

No.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay

Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
: something heard from another person : something that you have been told


>>
>> So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?
>
> Where is yours in all the things you whine about?

You may NOT answwr a question with a question, especially a non sequitur
question.

Where is the physical evidence???

>crickets<

>>> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
>>> telling us what they've said.
>>
>> You and I (and everyone else)  "heard [it] from another person".
>>
>> Period.
>>
>> Hearsay.
>>
>
> Then by that standard, you can never post anything you read or hear
> about...

Why not?

> ...unless it is from the person involved directly.
>
> So your posts about Franken kind of disappear, don't they?

Not with the photo of his abuse, no.

My GAWD but you're dense!

>>>>> Perhaps you could learn something of the language before we proceed.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you can STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR WOMAN ABUSE, you
>>>> exterminable vermin!
>>>>
>>>> I really want to see you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                /`._      ,
>>>>                               /     \   / \
>>>>                               ) ,-==-> /\/ \
>>>>                                )__\\/ // \  |
>>>>                               /  /' \//   | |
>>>>                              /  (  /|/    | /
>>>>                             /     //|    /,'
>>>>                            // /  (( )    '
>>>>                           //     // \    |
>>>>                          //     (#) |
>>>>                         /        )\/ \   '       ____
>>>>                        /        /#/   )         /,.__\__,,--=_,
>>>>                       /         \#\  /)      __/ + \____,--==<
>>>>                       //________/#/_/'      (\_\__+/_,   ---<^
>>>>                                                      '==--=='
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's an ASCII art failure...
>>
>> You're jealous.
>>
>>
>>
>>        _______
>>       |/      |
>>       |      (_)
>>       |      \|/
>>       |       |
>>       |      / \
>>       |
>>   ____|____
>
> LOL!

Mmm hmm.
Alan Baker
2017-11-17 23:18:00 UTC
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On 2017-11-17 3:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/17/2017 1:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-17 12:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2017 11:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now)
>>>>>>>> 7 different women.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hearsay
>>>>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as
>>>>>>> evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>>>>
>>>>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>>
>>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have
>>>>> been told
>>>>
>>>> Right. And this isn't that.
>>>
>>> Oh?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> No.
>
>
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>
> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
> : something heard from another person : something that you have been told

So then your whole report about Franken in the SNL writers meeting is
hearsay, correct?

>
>
>>>
>>> So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?
>>
>> Where is yours in all the things you whine about?
>
> You may NOT answwr a question with a question, especially a non sequitur
> question.
>
> Where is the physical evidence???

There isn't any. What of it?

There are the direct statements of seven women.


>
> >crickets<
>
>>>> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
>>>> telling us what they've said.
>>>
>>> You and I (and everyone else)  "heard [it] from another person".
>>>
>>> Period.
>>>
>>> Hearsay.
>>>
>>
>> Then by that standard, you can never post anything you read or hear
>> about...
>
> Why not?

Because unless you hear it directly from the source, according to you,
it's "hearsay".

>
>> ...unless it is from the person involved directly.
>>
>> So your posts about Franken kind of disappear, don't they?
>
> Not with the photo of his abuse, no.

It's not abuse to pretend to grab the breasts of a sleeping woman.

And that photo provides no evidence of what happened in an SNL writers
meeting.
wulfenite
2017-11-18 00:06:54 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-17 3:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/17/2017 1:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-17 12:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2017 11:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>>>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now)
>>>>>>>>> 7 different women.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hearsay
>>>>>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as
>>>>>>>> evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have
>>>>>> been told
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. And this isn't that.
>>>>
>>>> Oh?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>
>> No.
>>
>>
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>
>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>> : something heard from another person : something that you have been told
>
> So then your whole report about Franken in the SNL writers meeting is
> hearsay, correct?

Everything in the news is "hearsay" unless it contains physical,
photographic or written evidence.

Sadly the Franken episode does come with an abuse photo.

But you KNOW that, you simply don't LIKE it.

>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?
>>>
>>> Where is yours in all the things you whine about?
>>
>> You may NOT answwr a question with a question, especially a non
>> sequitur question.
>>
>> Where is the physical evidence???
>
> There isn't any. What of it?

Bingo - hearsay.

> There are the direct statements of seven women.

Also - hearsay.

>>
>>  >crickets<
>>
>>>>> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
>>>>> telling us what they've said.
>>>>
>>>> You and I (and everyone else)  "heard [it] from another person".
>>>>
>>>> Period.
>>>>
>>>> Hearsay.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then by that standard, you can never post anything you read or hear
>>> about...
>>
>> Why not?
>
> Because unless you hear it directly from the source, according to you,
> it's "hearsay".

Most things in life are, so?

>>
>>> ...unless it is from the person involved directly.
>>>
>>> So your posts about Franken kind of disappear, don't they?
>>
>> Not with the photo of his abuse, no.
>
> It's not abuse to pretend to grab the breasts of a sleeping woman.

Stop mimicking the vile excuses that NBC whore made, you exterminable
vermin!
> And that photo provides no evidence of what happened in an SNL writers
> meeting.

You;re desperate.

The question is why?

It's not like you'll gain anything by making an ass of yourself here
again, eh?
Alan Baker
2017-11-18 00:11:39 UTC
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On 2017-11-17 4:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/17/2017 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-17 3:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2017 1:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-17 12:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2017 11:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year
>>>>>>>>>>> old heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7 different women.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hearsay
>>>>>>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as
>>>>>>>>> evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have
>>>>>>> been told
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right. And this isn't that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>
>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have been
>>> told
>>
>> So then your whole report about Franken in the SNL writers meeting is
>> hearsay, correct?
>
> Everything in the news is "hearsay" unless it contains physical,
> photographic or written evidence.
>
> Sadly the Franken episode does come with an abuse photo.
>
> But you KNOW that, you simply don't LIKE it.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?
>>>>
>>>> Where is yours in all the things you whine about?
>>>
>>> You may NOT answwr a question with a question, especially a non
>>> sequitur question.
>>>
>>> Where is the physical evidence???
>>
>> There isn't any. What of it?
>
> Bingo - hearsay.

So then your post about Franken in the SNL writers meeting is hearsay as
well.

>
>> There are the direct statements of seven women.
>
> Also - hearsay.

You're wrong. Sorry.

>
>>>
>>>  >crickets<
>>>
>>>>>> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
>>>>>> telling us what they've said.
>>>>>
>>>>> You and I (and everyone else)  "heard [it] from another person".
>>>>>
>>>>> Period.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hearsay.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then by that standard, you can never post anything you read or hear
>>>> about...
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>
>> Because unless you hear it directly from the source, according to you,
>> it's "hearsay".
>
> Most things in life are, so?

You're wrong. Sorry.

>
>>>
>>>> ...unless it is from the person involved directly.
>>>>
>>>> So your posts about Franken kind of disappear, don't they?
>>>
>>> Not with the photo of his abuse, no.
>>
>> It's not abuse to pretend to grab the breasts of a sleeping woman.
>
> Stop mimicking the vile excuses that NBC whore made, you exterminable
> vermin!

What "NBC whore"?

It was a joke in poor taste.

>> And that photo provides no evidence of what happened in an SNL writers
>> meeting.
>
> You;re desperate.
>
> The question is why?
>
> It's not like you'll gain anything by making an ass of yourself here
> again, eh?

Irony.
wulfenite
2017-11-18 00:16:35 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 5:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-17 4:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/17/2017 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-17 3:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2017 1:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-17 12:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/2017 11:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 10:47 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18 and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old boys... do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your jealousy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consent, And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year
>>>>>>>>>>>> old heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7 different women.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hearsay
>>>>>>>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as
>>>>>>>>>> evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't
>>>>>>>>> fit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>>>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have
>>>>>>>> been told
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right. And this isn't that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>
>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have been
>>>> told
>>>
>>> So then your whole report about Franken in the SNL writers meeting is
>>> hearsay, correct?
>>
>> Everything in the news is "hearsay" unless it contains physical,
>> photographic or written evidence.
>>
>> Sadly the Franken episode does come with an abuse photo.
>>
>> But you KNOW that, you simply don't LIKE it.
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is yours in all the things you whine about?
>>>>
>>>> You may NOT answwr a question with a question, especially a non
>>>> sequitur question.
>>>>
>>>> Where is the physical evidence???
>>>
>>> There isn't any. What of it?
>>
>> Bingo - hearsay.
>
> So then your post about Franken in the SNL writers meeting is hearsay as
> well.

That specific portion is, yes.

>>
>>> There are the direct statements of seven women.
>>
>> Also - hearsay.
>
> You're wrong. Sorry.

They were made in court?

Are in the official record?

Where?

>>
>>>>
>>>>  >crickets<
>>>>
>>>>>>> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other people
>>>>>>> telling us what they've said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You and I (and everyone else)  "heard [it] from another person".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hearsay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then by that standard, you can never post anything you read or hear
>>>>> about...
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> Because unless you hear it directly from the source, according to
>>> you, it's "hearsay".
>>
>> Most things in life are, so?
>
> You're wrong. Sorry.

Nope, I'm right.

>>
>>>>
>>>>> ...unless it is from the person involved directly.
>>>>>
>>>>> So your posts about Franken kind of disappear, don't they?
>>>>
>>>> Not with the photo of his abuse, no.
>>>
>>> It's not abuse to pretend to grab the breasts of a sleeping woman.
>>
>> Stop mimicking the vile excuses that NBC whore made, you exterminable
>> vermin!
>
> What "NBC whore"?
>
> It was a joke in poor taste.

No it was not.

http://www.newsweek.com/franken-jokes-sexual-misconduct-women-713678

Senator Al Franken’s past jokes about rape and other forms of
inappropriate sexual conduct resurfaced Thursday after a radio anchor
accused him of forcefully kissing her during a rehearsal and of groping
her breasts while she slept on a flight from Afghanistan following a USO
tour in December 2006.

Franken rose to fame as a comedian and writer for NBC’s Saturday Night
Live, and some of his quips and performances were touchy subjects well
before he ran to represent Minnesota in the Senate.

Franken once joked about child rape during a comedic roast of film
director Rob Reiner. Franken laid out a scene where Reiner’s father,
Carl, would invite famous friends over to rape his son.

“On a typical night, Carl would slip into Rob’s bed, roll him over, swab
him down and say something like, ‘I’m thinking about hiring Morey
Amsterdam to play Buddy Sorrell, what do you think?’” Franken said.
“Well, the success of The Dick Van Dyke Show changed things
dramatically. Carl started inviting many of his famous friends to fuck
his son. That list includes some of the greats in comedy: Paul Lynde,
Dom DeLuise, Rip Taylor, Danny Kaye, Charles Nelson Reilly and Rock
Hudson—whom I frankly don’t think is that funny.”



Franken also brought up rape in a 1995 New York magazine article and
detailed three-way sex with robots in a 2000 Playboy article, during
which he also discussed a well-known 60 Minutes reporter.

“And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out,
I take her to the closet and rape her,’” Franken said. “Or, ‘that’s why
you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘when she passes out, I put
her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”

The Playboy article was titled “Porn-O-Rama!” and in it Franken
discusses creating an Institute for Pornographic Studies where he
performed sex acts with humans and robots.

“I found myself extremely attracted to the vulnerable side of this sexy
scientist, and when I offered to comfort her, she accepted, kissing me
full on the lips and inserting her tongue into my mouth and moving it
around suggestively,” Franken wrote. “Then she reached down and started
rubbing my crotch and within just five or ten minutes, my cock was again
hard and ready for action.”

Franken was also quoted at a Feminist Majority Foundation event in 1999
that was aimed at helping Afghani women: “Why don’t we focus on what
Afghan women can do? They can cook, bear children and pray. As I recall,
that was fine for our grandmothers.”

Franken has responded to radio anchor Leeann Tweeden’s accusations about
the USO trip, apologizing for a photo that appears to show him grabbing
her breasts while she slept.

“I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way,
but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann,” Franken said in a
statement to NBC Los Angeles. “As to the photo, it was clearly intended
to be funny but wasn’t. I shouldn’t have done it.”

>>> And that photo provides no evidence of what happened in an SNL
>>> writers meeting.
>>
>> You;re desperate.
>>
>> The question is why?
>>
>> It's not like you'll gain anything by making an ass of yourself here
>> again, eh?
>
> Irony.

Not an answer.
Alan Baker
2017-11-18 00:21:58 UTC
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On 2017-11-17 4:16 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7 different women.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> YOU MORON!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> fit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>>>>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have
>>>>>>>>> been told
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right. And this isn't that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>>>>>
>>>>> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
>>>>> : something heard from another person : something that you have
>>>>> been told
>>>>
>>>> So then your whole report about Franken in the SNL writers meeting
>>>> is hearsay, correct?
>>>
>>> Everything in the news is "hearsay" unless it contains physical,
>>> photographic or written evidence.
>>>
>>> Sadly the Franken episode does come with an abuse photo.
>>>
>>> But you KNOW that, you simply don't LIKE it.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So where is your PHYSICAL evidence, dumb fuck?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is yours in all the things you whine about?
>>>>>
>>>>> You may NOT answwr a question with a question, especially a non
>>>>> sequitur question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is the physical evidence???
>>>>
>>>> There isn't any. What of it?
>>>
>>> Bingo - hearsay.
>>
>> So then your post about Franken in the SNL writers meeting is hearsay
>> as well.
>
> That specific  portion is, yes.

What portion is there aside from that?

>
>>>
>>>> There are the direct statements of seven women.
>>>
>>> Also - hearsay.
>>
>> You're wrong. Sorry.
>
> They were made in court?

They don't have to be.

>
> Are in the official  record?
>
> Where?

They don't have to be.

They are direct statements made by the person involved.

Yes: they're being reported by the press, but if you declare that
everything reported by the press is "hearsay" you make a useful term
useless.

>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  >crickets<
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have direct quotes from the women themselves, NOT other
>>>>>>>> people telling us what they've said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You and I (and everyone else)  "heard [it] from another person".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Period.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hearsay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then by that standard, you can never post anything you read or
>>>>>> hear about...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not?
>>>>
>>>> Because unless you hear it directly from the source, according to
>>>> you, it's "hearsay".
>>>
>>> Most things in life are, so?
>>
>> You're wrong. Sorry.
>
> Nope, I'm right.

Nope.

>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...unless it is from the person involved directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So your posts about Franken kind of disappear, don't they?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not with the photo of his abuse, no.
>>>>
>>>> It's not abuse to pretend to grab the breasts of a sleeping woman.
>>>
>>> Stop mimicking the vile excuses that NBC whore made, you exterminable
>>> vermin!
>>
>> What "NBC whore"?
>>
>> It was a joke in poor taste.
>
> No it was not.

It wasn't in poor taste?

>
> http://www.newsweek.com/franken-jokes-sexual-misconduct-women-713678
>
> Senator Al Franken’s past jokes about rape and other forms of
> inappropriate sexual conduct resurfaced Thursday after a radio anchor
> accused him of forcefully kissing her during a rehearsal and of groping
> her breasts while she slept on a flight from Afghanistan following a USO
> tour in December 2006.
>
> Franken rose to fame as a comedian and writer for NBC’s Saturday Night
> Live, and some of his quips and performances were touchy subjects well
> before he ran to represent Minnesota in the Senate.
>
> Franken once joked about child rape during a comedic roast of film
> director Rob Reiner. Franken laid out a scene where Reiner’s father,
> Carl, would invite famous friends over to rape his son.
>
> “On a typical night, Carl would slip into Rob’s bed, roll him over, swab
> him down and say something like, ‘I’m thinking about hiring Morey
> Amsterdam to play Buddy Sorrell, what do you think?’” Franken said.
> “Well, the success of The Dick Van Dyke Show changed things
> dramatically. Carl started inviting many of his famous friends to fuck
> his son. That list includes some of the greats in comedy: Paul Lynde,
> Dom DeLuise, Rip Taylor, Danny Kaye, Charles Nelson Reilly and Rock
> Hudson—whom I frankly don’t think is that funny.”

Sorry, but we were discussing a particular incident, and now you're
trying to introduce an entirely different discussion.

>
>
>
> Franken also brought up rape in a 1995 New York magazine article and
> detailed three-way sex with robots in a 2000 Playboy article, during
> which he also discussed a well-known 60 Minutes reporter.
>
> “And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out,
> I take her to the closet and rape her,’” Franken said. “Or, ‘that’s why
> you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘when she passes out, I put
> her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”
>
> The Playboy article was titled “Porn-O-Rama!” and in it Franken
> discusses creating an Institute for Pornographic Studies where he
> performed sex acts with humans and robots.
>
> “I found myself extremely attracted to the vulnerable side of this sexy
> scientist, and when I offered to comfort her, she accepted, kissing me
> full on the lips and inserting her tongue into my mouth and moving it
> around suggestively,” Franken wrote. “Then she reached down and started
> rubbing my crotch and within just five or ten minutes, my cock was again
> hard and ready for action.”
>
> Franken was also quoted at a Feminist Majority Foundation event in 1999
> that was aimed at helping Afghani women: “Why don’t we focus on what
> Afghan women can do? They can cook, bear children and pray. As I recall,
> that was fine for our grandmothers.”
>
> Franken has responded to radio anchor Leeann Tweeden’s accusations about
> the USO trip, apologizing for a photo that appears to show him grabbing
> her breasts while she slept.
>
> “I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way,
> but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann,” Franken said in a
> statement to NBC Los Angeles. “As to the photo, it was clearly intended
> to be funny but wasn’t. I shouldn’t have done it.”

Right.

As I said: a joke in poor taste.

>
>>>> And that photo provides no evidence of what happened in an SNL
>>>> writers meeting.
>>>
>>> You;re desperate.
>>>
>>> The question is why?
>>>
>>> It's not like you'll gain anything by making an ass of yourself here
>>> again, eh?
>>
>> Irony.
>
> Not an answer.

Not to one who doesn't know what I meant, that's true.

:-)
wulfenite
2017-11-18 00:23:37 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 5:21 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> They don't have to be.


http://www.newsweek.com/franken-jokes-sexual-misconduct-women-713678

Senator Al Franken’s past jokes about rape and other forms of
inappropriate sexual conduct resurfaced Thursday after a radio anchor
accused him of forcefully kissing her during a rehearsal and of groping
her breasts while she slept on a flight from Afghanistan following a USO
tour in December 2006.

Franken rose to fame as a comedian and writer for NBC’s Saturday Night
Live, and some of his quips and performances were touchy subjects well
before he ran to represent Minnesota in the Senate.

Franken once joked about child rape during a comedic roast of film
director Rob Reiner. Franken laid out a scene where Reiner’s father,
Carl, would invite famous friends over to rape his son.

“On a typical night, Carl would slip into Rob’s bed, roll him over, swab
him down and say something like, ‘I’m thinking about hiring Morey
Amsterdam to play Buddy Sorrell, what do you think?’” Franken said.
“Well, the success of The Dick Van Dyke Show changed things
dramatically. Carl started inviting many of his famous friends to fuck
his son. That list includes some of the greats in comedy: Paul Lynde,
Dom DeLuise, Rip Taylor, Danny Kaye, Charles Nelson Reilly and Rock
Hudson—whom I frankly don’t think is that funny.”



Franken also brought up rape in a 1995 New York magazine article and
detailed three-way sex with robots in a 2000 Playboy article, during
which he also discussed a well-known 60 Minutes reporter.

“And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out,
I take her to the closet and rape her,’” Franken said. “Or, ‘that’s why
you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘when she passes out, I put
her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”

The Playboy article was titled “Porn-O-Rama!” and in it Franken
discusses creating an Institute for Pornographic Studies where he
performed sex acts with humans and robots.

“I found myself extremely attracted to the vulnerable side of this sexy
scientist, and when I offered to comfort her, she accepted, kissing me
full on the lips and inserting her tongue into my mouth and moving it
around suggestively,” Franken wrote. “Then she reached down and started
rubbing my crotch and within just five or ten minutes, my cock was again
hard and ready for action.”

Franken was also quoted at a Feminist Majority Foundation event in 1999
that was aimed at helping Afghani women: “Why don’t we focus on what
Afghan women can do? They can cook, bear children and pray. As I recall,
that was fine for our grandmothers.”

Franken has responded to radio anchor Leeann Tweeden’s accusations about
the USO trip, apologizing for a photo that appears to show him grabbing
her breasts while she slept.

“I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way,
but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann,” Franken said in a
statement to NBC Los Angeles. “As to the photo, it was clearly intended
to be funny but wasn’t. I shouldn’t have done it.”
wulfenite
2017-11-18 00:22:43 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> Where is the physical evidence???
>
> There isn't any. What of it?


http://www.newsweek.com/franken-jokes-sexual-misconduct-women-713678

Senator Al Franken’s past jokes about rape and other forms of
inappropriate sexual conduct resurfaced Thursday after a radio anchor
accused him of forcefully kissing her during a rehearsal and of groping
her breasts while she slept on a flight from Afghanistan following a USO
tour in December 2006.

Franken rose to fame as a comedian and writer for NBC’s Saturday Night
Live, and some of his quips and performances were touchy subjects well
before he ran to represent Minnesota in the Senate.

Franken once joked about child rape during a comedic roast of film
director Rob Reiner. Franken laid out a scene where Reiner’s father,
Carl, would invite famous friends over to rape his son.

“On a typical night, Carl would slip into Rob’s bed, roll him over, swab
him down and say something like, ‘I’m thinking about hiring Morey
Amsterdam to play Buddy Sorrell, what do you think?’” Franken said.
“Well, the success of The Dick Van Dyke Show changed things
dramatically. Carl started inviting many of his famous friends to fuck
his son. That list includes some of the greats in comedy: Paul Lynde,
Dom DeLuise, Rip Taylor, Danny Kaye, Charles Nelson Reilly and Rock
Hudson—whom I frankly don’t think is that funny.”



Franken also brought up rape in a 1995 New York magazine article and
detailed three-way sex with robots in a 2000 Playboy article, during
which he also discussed a well-known 60 Minutes reporter.

“And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out,
I take her to the closet and rape her,’” Franken said. “Or, ‘that’s why
you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘when she passes out, I put
her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”

The Playboy article was titled “Porn-O-Rama!” and in it Franken
discusses creating an Institute for Pornographic Studies where he
performed sex acts with humans and robots.

“I found myself extremely attracted to the vulnerable side of this sexy
scientist, and when I offered to comfort her, she accepted, kissing me
full on the lips and inserting her tongue into my mouth and moving it
around suggestively,” Franken wrote. “Then she reached down and started
rubbing my crotch and within just five or ten minutes, my cock was again
hard and ready for action.”

Franken was also quoted at a Feminist Majority Foundation event in 1999
that was aimed at helping Afghani women: “Why don’t we focus on what
Afghan women can do? They can cook, bear children and pray. As I recall,
that was fine for our grandmothers.”

Franken has responded to radio anchor Leeann Tweeden’s accusations about
the USO trip, apologizing for a photo that appears to show him grabbing
her breasts while she slept.

“I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way,
but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann,” Franken said in a
statement to NBC Los Angeles. “As to the photo, it was clearly intended
to be funny but wasn’t. I shouldn’t have done it.”
wulfenite
2017-11-18 00:23:12 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 1:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> Then by that standard,


http://www.newsweek.com/franken-jokes-sexual-misconduct-women-713678

Senator Al Franken’s past jokes about rape and other forms of
inappropriate sexual conduct resurfaced Thursday after a radio anchor
accused him of forcefully kissing her during a rehearsal and of groping
her breasts while she slept on a flight from Afghanistan following a USO
tour in December 2006.

Franken rose to fame as a comedian and writer for NBC’s Saturday Night
Live, and some of his quips and performances were touchy subjects well
before he ran to represent Minnesota in the Senate.

Franken once joked about child rape during a comedic roast of film
director Rob Reiner. Franken laid out a scene where Reiner’s father,
Carl, would invite famous friends over to rape his son.

“On a typical night, Carl would slip into Rob’s bed, roll him over, swab
him down and say something like, ‘I’m thinking about hiring Morey
Amsterdam to play Buddy Sorrell, what do you think?’” Franken said.
“Well, the success of The Dick Van Dyke Show changed things
dramatically. Carl started inviting many of his famous friends to fuck
his son. That list includes some of the greats in comedy: Paul Lynde,
Dom DeLuise, Rip Taylor, Danny Kaye, Charles Nelson Reilly and Rock
Hudson—whom I frankly don’t think is that funny.”



Franken also brought up rape in a 1995 New York magazine article and
detailed three-way sex with robots in a 2000 Playboy article, during
which he also discussed a well-known 60 Minutes reporter.

“And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out,
I take her to the closet and rape her,’” Franken said. “Or, ‘that’s why
you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘when she passes out, I put
her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”

The Playboy article was titled “Porn-O-Rama!” and in it Franken
discusses creating an Institute for Pornographic Studies where he
performed sex acts with humans and robots.

“I found myself extremely attracted to the vulnerable side of this sexy
scientist, and when I offered to comfort her, she accepted, kissing me
full on the lips and inserting her tongue into my mouth and moving it
around suggestively,” Franken wrote. “Then she reached down and started
rubbing my crotch and within just five or ten minutes, my cock was again
hard and ready for action.”

Franken was also quoted at a Feminist Majority Foundation event in 1999
that was aimed at helping Afghani women: “Why don’t we focus on what
Afghan women can do? They can cook, bear children and pray. As I recall,
that was fine for our grandmothers.”

Franken has responded to radio anchor Leeann Tweeden’s accusations about
the USO trip, apologizing for a photo that appears to show him grabbing
her breasts while she slept.

“I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way,
but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann,” Franken said in a
statement to NBC Los Angeles. “As to the photo, it was clearly intended
to be funny but wasn’t. I shouldn’t have done it.”
Siri Cruise
2017-11-17 20:27:36 UTC
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In article <ounass$1sl$***@news.mixmin.net>, wulfenite <***@tva.ee> wrote:

> On 11/17/2017 10:33 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> > On 2017-11-17 7:28 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> >> On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> >>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> >>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> >>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
> >>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
> >>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
> >>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed
> >>>>>>>>>> to be
> >>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
> >>>>>>>>>> boys... do I?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
> >>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
> >>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
> >>>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
> >>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Let's start here:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/le
> >>>>>>>> eann-airplane-pic.jpg
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
> >>>>>> apologies for?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> READ:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
> >>>>>> There’s
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old
> >>>>> girl?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
> >>>> heasrsay, ASSHOLE???
> >>>
> >>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
> >>> different women.
> >>
> >> YOU MORON!
> >>
> >> https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hearsay
> >>
> >> Hearsay
> >> A statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence to
> >> prove the truth of the matter asserted.
> >
> > And this wasn't "offered in court", so that definition doesn't fit.
>
> Are you BRAIN DEAD to the STEM?!?!?!?!
>
> You want the vernacular version too, fuckwit?
>
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
>
> Definition of hearsay for English Language Learners
> : something heard from another person : something that you have been told
> > Perhaps you could learn something of the language before we proceed.
>
> Perhaps you can STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR WOMAN ABUSE, you exterminable
> vermin!
>
> I really want to see you:
>
>
>
>
> /`._ ,
> / \ / \
> ) ,-==-> /\/ \
> )__\\/ // \ |
> / /' \// | |
> / ( /|/ | /
> / //| /,'
> // / (( ) '
> // // \ |
> // (#) |
> / )\/ \ ' ____
> / /#/ ) /,.__\__,,--=_,
> / \#\ /) __/ + \____,--==<
> //________/#/_/' (\_\__+/_, ---<^
> '==--=='

You're running away with a quarter note?

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Reticula
2018-01-09 17:16:45 UTC
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On 11/17/2017 1:27 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> I really want to see you:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> /`._ ,
>> / \ / \
>> ) ,-==-> /\/ \
>> )__\\/ // \ |
>> / /' \// | |
>> / ( /|/ | /
>> / //| /,'
>> // / (( ) '
>> // // \ |
>> // (#) |
>> / )\/ \ ' ____
>> / /#/ ) /,.__\__,,--=_,
>> / \#\ /) __/ + \____,--==<
>> //________/#/_/' (\_\__+/_, ---<^
>> '==--=='
> You're running away with a quarter note?

1/4 Bitcoin would be enough to drop you.
Governor Swill
2017-11-19 19:42:51 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker <***@telus.net>
wrote:

>On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>
>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>> apologies for?
>>>>
>>>> READ:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>
>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old girl?
>>>
>>
>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old heasrsay,
>> ASSHOLE???
>
>It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>different women.

It's 8 now.

>> I so want your neck in my hands!
>
>Awwww...
>
>I don't swing that way, sorry.

But he does. He's been chasing me for months.

Swill
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against Donny and friends. The problem is nothing in the Democrat
kertuffle is alleged to be illegal. However unsavoury it
sounds, it's Democrats fighting with Democrats and doesn't
involve the general public. The allegations against Donny
and friends do involve crimes against the people of the
republic. - Siri Cruise
wulfenite
2017-11-19 19:54:57 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker <***@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>
>>>>> READ:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>
>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old girl?
>>>>
>>>
>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old heasrsay,
>>> ASSHOLE???
>>
>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>> different women.
>
> It's 8 now.

8 instances of hearsay then, so???

>>> I so want your neck in my hands!
>>
>> Awwww...
>>
>> I don't swing that way, sorry.
>
> But he does. He's been chasing me for months.
>
> Swill

I know who you are, KStahl.

And that Hotlanta gay coven you;re running for the DNC is going DOWN!
Alan Baker
2017-11-19 20:07:14 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker <***@telus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed
>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year old
>>>>> girl?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>> heasrsay,
>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>
>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>> different women.
>>
>> It's 8 now.
>
> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???

So are all your accusations against Franken in an SNL writers meeting
"hearsay"?

Yes or no.
wulfenite
2017-11-19 20:38:15 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker <***@telus.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>> heasrsay,
>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>
>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>> different women.
>>>
>>> It's 8 now.
>>
>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>
> So are all your accusations against Franken

Nope - direct physical evidence exists:

https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg


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Alan Baker
2017-11-19 20:40:04 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker <***@telus.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>> heasrsay,
>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>> different women.
>>>>
>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>
>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>
>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>
> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:

Not of the incident you claim occurred at an SNL writers meeting.
wulfenite
2017-11-19 20:44:55 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker <***@telus.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And
>>>>>>>>> There’s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>> heasrsay,
>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>
>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>
>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>
>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>
> Not of the incident

LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:

https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg


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Alan Baker
2017-11-19 20:46:32 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker <***@telus.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14 year
>>>>>>>>> old girl?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>>> heasrsay,
>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>
>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>
>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>
>> Not of the incident
>
> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>
> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>

That doesn't relate to the SNL writers meeting incident.

That isn't physical evidence.
wulfenite
2017-11-19 21:20:29 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>>>> heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>
>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>
>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>
>>> Not of the incident
>>
>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>
>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>
>
> That doesn't relate to the SNL

Non sequitur!



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Alan Baker
2017-11-19 21:30:52 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 1:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year old
>>>>>>>>>> heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>
>>>> Not of the incident
>>>
>>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>
>>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>>
>>
>> That doesn't relate to the SNL
>
> Non sequitur!

Yes. Precisely.

It does not follow that an image of a totally separate incident has any
bearing on whether your own claims about an SNL meeting meet your
definition of hearsay.
wulfenite
2017-11-19 21:32:14 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 2:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 1:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year
>>>>>>>>>>> old heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from (now) 7
>>>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>
>>>>> Not of the incident
>>>>
>>>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>
>>>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> That doesn't relate to the SNL
>>
>> Non sequitur!
>
> Yes. Precisely.
>
> It does not follow that an image of a totally separate incident

On the plane from the same venue where he already assaulted her.

Nice to see what a craven misogynist you are.
Alan Baker
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On 2017-11-19 1:32 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 2:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 1:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consent, And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year
>>>>>>>>>>>> old heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7
>>>>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not of the incident
>>>>>
>>>>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't relate to the SNL
>>>
>>> Non sequitur!
>>
>> Yes. Precisely.
>>
>> It does not follow that an image of a totally separate incident
>
> On the plane from the same venue where he already assaulted her.

That's not the SNL writers incident you claimed, is it?

:-)
wulfenite
2017-11-19 21:47:12 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 2:33 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 1:32 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 2:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-19 1:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consent, And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a 14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7
>>>>>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not of the incident
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't relate to the SNL
>>>>
>>>> Non sequitur!
>>>
>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>
>>> It does not follow that an image of a totally separate incident
>>
>> On the plane from the same venue where he already assaulted her.
>
> That's not the SNL writers


That's CONTEXT, from the very venue it occurred in!

Deal.




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Alan Baker
2017-11-19 21:52:56 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 1:47 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 2:33 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 1:32 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 2:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-19 1:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consent, And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not of the incident
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That doesn't relate to the SNL
>>>>>
>>>>> Non sequitur!
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>>
>>>> It does not follow that an image of a totally separate incident
>>>
>>> On the plane from the same venue where he already assaulted her.
>>
>> That's not the SNL writers
>
>
> That's CONTEXT, from the very venue it occurred in!

No. It's not.

You claimed an incident happened at an SNL writers meeting.

That photograph was not taken at an SNL writers meeting.

Your only support for the incident at the SNL writers meeting meets your
own definition of hearsay.

I dare you to actually reply in a cogent manner.

I fully expect you'll fail and your failures amuse me... ...a little.

:-)
wulfenite
2017-11-19 22:07:35 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 2:52 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 1:47 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 2:33 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-19 1:32 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 2:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-19 1:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consent, And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year old heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not of the incident
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That doesn't relate to the SNL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Non sequitur!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does not follow that an image of a totally separate incident
>>>>
>>>> On the plane from the same venue where he already assaulted her.
>>>
>>> That's not the SNL writers
>>
>>
>> That's CONTEXT, from the very venue it occurred in!
>
> No. It's not.
>
> You claimed an incident happened at an SNL writers meeting.

I claimed nothing.

Ms Tweeden did.


> That photograph was not taken at an SNL writers meeting.

It was taken on the plane leaving the venue. duh.

> Your only support

You LOSE again, asshole.




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Alan Baker
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On 2017-11-19 2:07 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 2:52 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 1:47 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 2:33 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-19 1:32 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 2:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 1:20 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:44 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:40 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 12:38 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 1:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 12:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:23:08 -0800, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@telus.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 1:37 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holman says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STILL means 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are supposed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year old boys...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show your jealousy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a reporter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any sleazy abusive behavior to women you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> READ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consent, And There’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does any of that excuse Moore's sexual assault of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 year old girl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does actual photographic evidence compare with 40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year old heasrsay,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLE???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "hearsay", you twit: it is direct testimony from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (now) 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different women.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's 8 now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So are all your accusations against Franken
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not of the incident
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LEARN - direct physical evidence exists:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://epeak.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/la-radio-host-shares-photo-of-sen-al-franken-groping-her-he-said-it-was-intended-to-be-funny.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That doesn't relate to the SNL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Non sequitur!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does not follow that an image of a totally separate incident
>>>>>
>>>>> On the plane from the same venue where he already assaulted her.
>>>>
>>>> That's not the SNL writers
>>>
>>>
>>> That's CONTEXT, from the very venue it occurred in!
>>
>> No. It's not.
>>
>> You claimed an incident happened at an SNL writers meeting.
>
> I claimed nothing.
>
> Ms Tweeden did.

Not about an SNL writers meeting she didn't.

>
>
>> That photograph was not taken at an SNL writers meeting.
>
> It was taken on the plane leaving the venue. duh.

The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting you cited, either.

>
>> Your only support
>
> You LOSE again, asshole.

LOL!
wulfenite
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On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting

The spin is RE-jected, as always.

Go troll some golfers, you narcissistic assbag.
Alan Baker
2017-11-19 22:30:28 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 2:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting
>
> The spin is RE-jected, as always.

It isn't spin.

You presented an alleged incident that was supposed to have taken place
at an SNL meeting.

You presented it with precisely the same support your reject in the case
of Moore.

That's called "hypocrisy".

:-)

>
> Go troll some golfers, you narcissistic assbag.
wulfenite
2017-11-19 22:56:52 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 2:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting
>>
>> The spin is RE-jected, as always.
>
> It isn't spin.
>
Silence assbag!
Alan Baker
2017-11-19 22:58:43 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 2:56 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 2:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting
>>>
>>> The spin is RE-jected, as always.
>>
>> It isn't spin.
>>
> Silence assbag!

So address it, if you actually can...
wulfenite
2017-11-19 23:22:50 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 3:58 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 2:56 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-19 2:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting
>>>>
>>>> The spin is RE-jected, as always.
>>>
>>> It isn't spin.
>>>
>> Silence assbag!
>
> So

SILENCE!
Alan Baker
2017-11-19 23:24:46 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 3:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 3:58 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 2:56 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-19 2:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> The spin is RE-jected, as always.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't spin.
>>>>
>>> Silence assbag!
>>
>> So
>
> SILENCE!

What made you into such a coward?

:-(
wulfenite
2017-11-19 23:29:05 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 4:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-19 3:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 3:58 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-19 2:56 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-19 2:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The spin is RE-jected, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't spin.
>>>>>
>>>> Silence assbag!
>>>
>>> So
>>
>> SILENCE!
>
> What made you into such a coward?
>
> :-(

The artless troll whinges on...
Alan Baker
2017-11-19 23:41:49 UTC
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On 2017-11-19 3:29 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 4:24 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-19 3:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 3:58 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-19 2:56 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 3:30 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 2:22 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 3:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> The venue wasn't the SNL writers meeting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The spin is RE-jected, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't spin.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Silence assbag!
>>>>
>>>> So
>>>
>>> SILENCE!
>>
>> What made you into such a coward?
>>
>> :-(
>
> The artless troll whinges on...

Non-responsive.

What a shocker.
M.I.Wakefield
2017-11-19 20:44:37 UTC
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...

> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:

> > 8 instances of hearsay then, so???

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
wulfenite
2017-11-19 21:19:14 UTC
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On 11/19/2017 1:44 PM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>
>> > 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>
> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.
>
> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>

YOU are a fucking canuckleheaded MORON!


https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay

hearsay noun

things that you have heard from another person but do not (definitely)
know to be true
We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
Governor Swill
2017-11-20 05:54:35 UTC
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <***@present.com>
wrote:

>"Alan Baker" wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>
>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>
>> > 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>
>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
>
>The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".

"Hearsay" is when one relates what someone else said. Like when Trump
said he "heard" Ted Cruz's father killed JFK.

Swill
--
DNC issues are presented as equivalent to criminal allegations
against Donny and friends. The problem is nothing in the Democrat
kertuffle is alleged to be illegal. However unsavoury it
sounds, it's Democrats fighting with Democrats and doesn't
involve the general public. The allegations against Donny
and friends do involve crimes against the people of the
republic. - Siri Cruise
wulfenite
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On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <***@present.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>
>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>
>> You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
>>
>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>
> "Hearsay" is

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay

Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary

hearsay noun
BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
[uncountable]

things that you have heard from another person but do not (definitely)
know to be true
We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
hearsay evidence
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 18:35:44 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <***@present.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>
>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>
>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it
>>> means.
>>>
>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>
>> "Hearsay" is
>
> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>
> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
>
>  hearsay noun
> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
> [uncountable]
>
> things that you have heard from another person but do not (definitely)
> know to be true
> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
> hearsay evidence
>

So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting hearsay?

Yes or no?
wulfenite
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On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <***@present.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>
>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it
>>>> means.
>>>>
>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>
>>> "Hearsay" is
>>
>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>
>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
>>
>>   hearsay noun
>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>> [uncountable]
>>
>> things that you have heard from another person but do not (definitely)
>> know to be true
>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>> hearsay evidence
>>
>
> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting hearsay?

Meeting - yes.

> Yes or no?

Airplane - no.

But wait....there's MORE!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html

Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction
that left her feeling "gross."

According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after Franken
was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was sponsoring a
local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting various elected
officials, political candidates and celebrities and taking photos with
them as they stopped by the booth.

When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with CNN,
said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief and
cordial exchange with the senator.

Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a photo of
the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like awkward close,
and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my
rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."

"It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was
definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen act lasted
three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's happening."

"He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife. "He
pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was over pretty
quick."

Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo was
taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator. When she
reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him: "He totally
grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation the same way
to CNN.

In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember taking
the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt disrespected.
"I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by hundreds of
people, and I certainly don't remember taking this picture," Franken
said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from our interaction feeling
disrespected."

"I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and some
random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You just feel
gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."


"I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz said.
"He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him. But yeah -- I
was in shock, really."

Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day but
didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter told him
about the incident right away.

Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the incident
with her daughter immediately after it happened. She said she distinctly
recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just groped my wife
right in front of me."

In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face is
pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies are not
shown. Both of them are smiling.

Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on August
27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the photo: "Sorry,
but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and Franken were in the
photo.

Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken TOTALLY
molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)

Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the clothing
covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not considered criminal
sexual conduct.

Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the photo
with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with her. Standing
nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.

As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said the
congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our arms around
each other" -- an interaction that struck her as being in stark contrast
with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 18:47:33 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <***@present.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>
>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think
>>>>> it means.
>>>>>
>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>
>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>
>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>
>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
>>>
>>>   hearsay noun
>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>> [uncountable]
>>>
>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>> hearsay evidence
>>>
>>
>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting
>> hearsay?
>
> Meeting - yes.
>
>> Yes or no?
>
> Airplane - no.
>
> But wait....there's MORE!
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>
>
> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
> reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
> public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction
> that left her feeling "gross."

According to you this is all hearsay, right?

>
> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
> husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after Franken
> was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was sponsoring a
> local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting various elected
> officials, political candidates and celebrities and taking photos with
> them as they stopped by the booth.
>
> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with CNN,
> said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief and
> cordial exchange with the senator.
>
> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a photo of
> the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like awkward close,
> and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my
> rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
>
> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was
> definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen act lasted
> three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's happening."
>
> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
> husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife. "He
> pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was over pretty
> quick."
>
> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo was
> taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator. When she
> reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him: "He totally
> grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation the same way
> to CNN.
>
> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember taking
> the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt disrespected.
> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by hundreds of
> people, and I certainly don't remember taking this picture," Franken
> said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from our interaction feeling
> disrespected."
>
> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and some
> random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You just feel
> gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>
>
> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz said.
> "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him. But yeah -- I
> was in shock, really."
>
> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day but
> didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter told him
> about the incident right away.
>
> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the incident
> with her daughter immediately after it happened. She said she distinctly
> recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just groped my wife
> right in front of me."
>
> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face is
> pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies are not
> shown. Both of them are smiling.
>
> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on August
> 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the photo: "Sorry,
> but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
> explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and Franken were in the
> photo.
>
> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken TOTALLY
> molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's Facebook
> friends.)
>
> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the clothing
> covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not considered criminal
> sexual conduct.
>
> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the photo
> with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with her. Standing
> nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>
> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said the
> congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our arms around
> each other" -- an interaction that struck her as being in stark contrast
> with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>
wulfenite
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On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <***@present.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think
>>>>>> it means.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>
>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>
>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>> Dictionary
>>>>
>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>
>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>
>>>
>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting
>>> hearsay?
>>
>> Meeting - yes.
>>
>>> Yes or no?
>>
>> Airplane - no.
>>
>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>
>>
>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
>> reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
>> public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction
>> that left her feeling "gross."
>
> According to you this is all hearsay, right?

Not "all", no.

>>
>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
>> husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after
>> Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was
>> sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting various
>> elected officials, political candidates and celebrities and taking
>> photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>
>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with CNN,
>> said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief and
>> cordial exchange with the senator.
>>
>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a photo
>> of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like awkward
>> close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand
>> full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my
>> butt cheek."
>>
>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was
>> definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen act lasted
>> three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>
>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
>> husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife. "He
>> pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was over pretty
>> quick."
>>
>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo was
>> taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator. When
>> she reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him: "He
>> totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation the
>> same way to CNN.
>>
>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember taking
>> the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by hundreds
>> of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this picture,"
>> Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from our
>> interaction feeling disrespected."
>>
>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and some
>> random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You just feel
>> gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>
>>
>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz said.
>> "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him. But yeah -- I
>> was in shock, really."
>>
>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day but
>> didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter told him
>> about the incident right away.
>>
>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She said she
>> distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just
>> groped my wife right in front of me."
>>
>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face is
>> pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies are not
>> shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>
>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on August
>> 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the photo: "Sorry,
>> but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
>> explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and Franken were in the
>> photo.
>>
>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken TOTALLY
>> molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's Facebook
>> friends.)
>>
>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the clothing
>> covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not considered
>> criminal sexual conduct.
>>
>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the photo
>> with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with her.
>> Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>
>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said the
>> congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our arms
>> around each other" -- an interaction that struck her as being in stark
>> contrast with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>
>
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 18:54:08 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think
>>>>>>> it means.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>
>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>>> Dictionary
>>>>>
>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>
>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting
>>>> hearsay?
>>>
>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>
>>>> Yes or no?
>>>
>>> Airplane - no.
>>>
>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>
>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
>>> reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
>>> public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction
>>> that left her feeling "gross."
>>
>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>
> Not "all", no.

What parts aren't and why?

>
>>>
>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
>>> husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after
>>> Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was
>>> sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting various
>>> elected officials, political candidates and celebrities and taking
>>> photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>
>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with
>>> CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief
>>> and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>
>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a photo
>>> of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like awkward
>>> close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand
>>> full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around
>>> my butt cheek."
>>>
>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was
>>> definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen act
>>> lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>>
>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
>>> husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife.
>>> "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was over
>>> pretty quick."
>>>
>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo was
>>> taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator. When
>>> she reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him: "He
>>> totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation the
>>> same way to CNN.
>>>
>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember taking
>>> the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by hundreds
>>> of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this picture,"
>>> Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from our
>>> interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>
>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and some
>>> random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You just feel
>>> gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>
>>>
>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz
>>> said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him. But
>>> yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>
>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day but
>>> didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter told him
>>> about the incident right away.
>>>
>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She said
>>> she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator
>>> just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>
>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face is
>>> pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies are
>>> not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>
>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on August
>>> 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the photo:
>>> "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference,
>>> Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and Franken
>>> were in the photo.
>>>
>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken TOTALLY
>>> molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's Facebook
>>> friends.)
>>>
>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the clothing
>>> covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not considered
>>> criminal sexual conduct.
>>>
>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the photo
>>> with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with her.
>>> Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John
>>> Kline.
>>>
>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said the
>>> congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our arms
>>> around each other" -- an interaction that struck her as being in
>>> stark contrast with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>
>>
>
wulfenite
2017-11-20 19:12:44 UTC
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On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you
>>>>>>>> think it means.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>>>> Dictionary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting
>>>>> hearsay?
>>>>
>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>
>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>
>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>
>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
>>>> reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
>>>> public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction
>>>> that left her feeling "gross."
>>>
>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>
>> Not "all", no.
>
> What parts aren't and why?

I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.

It should be readily apparent, lol!
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
>>>> husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after
>>>> Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was
>>>> sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting
>>>> various elected officials, political candidates and celebrities and
>>>> taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>
>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with
>>>> CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief
>>>> and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>
>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a photo
>>>> of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like awkward
>>>> close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand
>>>> full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around
>>>> my butt cheek."
>>>>
>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was
>>>> definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen act
>>>> lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's
>>>> happening."
>>>>
>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
>>>> husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife.
>>>> "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was over
>>>> pretty quick."
>>>>
>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo was
>>>> taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator. When
>>>> she reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him: "He
>>>> totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation
>>>> the same way to CNN.
>>>>
>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember
>>>> taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt
>>>> disrespected.
>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by hundreds
>>>> of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this picture,"
>>>> Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from our
>>>> interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>
>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and some
>>>> random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You just feel
>>>> gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz
>>>> said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him. But
>>>> yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>
>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day but
>>>> didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter told
>>>> him about the incident right away.
>>>>
>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>>>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She said
>>>> she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator
>>>> just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>
>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face is
>>>> pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies are
>>>> not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>
>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on
>>>> August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the
>>>> photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a
>>>> reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz
>>>> and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>
>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's
>>>> Facebook friends.)
>>>>
>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the clothing
>>>> covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not considered
>>>> criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>
>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the
>>>> photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with her.
>>>> Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John
>>>> Kline.
>>>>
>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said the
>>>> congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our arms
>>>> around each other" -- an interaction that struck her as being in
>>>> stark contrast with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 19:39:10 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you
>>>>>>>>> think it means.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>>>>> Dictionary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting
>>>>>> hearsay?
>>>>>
>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>
>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>
>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
>>>>> reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
>>>>> public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable"
>>>>> interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>
>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>
>>> Not "all", no.
>>
>> What parts aren't and why?
>
> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>
> It should be readily apparent, lol!

Nope. Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy Moore's
(now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow different...

...YOU point out where and how.

>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
>>>>> husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after
>>>>> Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was
>>>>> sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting
>>>>> various elected officials, political candidates and celebrities and
>>>>> taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>
>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with
>>>>> CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief
>>>>> and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a
>>>>> photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like
>>>>> awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand
>>>>> full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around
>>>>> my butt cheek."
>>>>>
>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was
>>>>> definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen act
>>>>> lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's
>>>>> happening."
>>>>>
>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
>>>>> husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife.
>>>>> "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was over
>>>>> pretty quick."
>>>>>
>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo was
>>>>> taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator. When
>>>>> she reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him: "He
>>>>> totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation
>>>>> the same way to CNN.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember
>>>>> taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt
>>>>> disrespected.
>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this
>>>>> picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from
>>>>> our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>
>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and some
>>>>> random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You just
>>>>> feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz
>>>>> said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him. But
>>>>> yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>
>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day but
>>>>> didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter told
>>>>> him about the incident right away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>>>>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She said
>>>>> she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator
>>>>> just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>>
>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face is
>>>>> pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies are
>>>>> not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on
>>>>> August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the
>>>>> photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a
>>>>> reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz
>>>>> and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's
>>>>> Facebook friends.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the clothing
>>>>> covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not considered
>>>>> criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>
>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the
>>>>> photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with
>>>>> her. Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota Rep.
>>>>> John Kline.
>>>>>
>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said
>>>>> the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our
>>>>> arms around each other" -- an interaction that struck her as being
>>>>> in stark contrast with what she had experienced moments ago with
>>>>> Franken.
wulfenite
2017-11-20 20:43:32 UTC
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On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you
>>>>>>>>>> think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>>>>>> Dictionary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL meeting
>>>>>>> hearsay?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
>>>>>> reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
>>>>>> public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable"
>>>>>> interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>
>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>
>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>
>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>
>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>
>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>
> Nope.

Yep!

> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy Moore's
> (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow different...

It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try again,
asshole.

> ...YOU point out where and how.

You flail and pretend ignorance.

It's your only remaining squirm.

>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
>>>>>> husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after
>>>>>> Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was
>>>>>> sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting
>>>>>> various elected officials, political candidates and celebrities
>>>>>> and taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with
>>>>>> CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a
>>>>>> brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a
>>>>>> photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like
>>>>>> awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand
>>>>>> full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly
>>>>>> around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It
>>>>>> was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen
>>>>>> act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's
>>>>>> happening."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
>>>>>> husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife.
>>>>>> "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was
>>>>>> over pretty quick."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo
>>>>>> was taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator.
>>>>>> When she reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him:
>>>>>> "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that
>>>>>> conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember
>>>>>> taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt
>>>>>> disrespected.
>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this
>>>>>> picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from
>>>>>> our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and
>>>>>> some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You
>>>>>> just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz
>>>>>> said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him. But
>>>>>> yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day
>>>>>> but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter
>>>>>> told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>>>>>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She said
>>>>>> she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator
>>>>>> just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face
>>>>>> is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies
>>>>>> are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on
>>>>>> August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the
>>>>>> photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a
>>>>>> reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz
>>>>>> and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's
>>>>>> Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not
>>>>>> considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the
>>>>>> photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with
>>>>>> her. Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota Rep.
>>>>>> John Kline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said
>>>>>> the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our
>>>>>> arms around each other" -- an interaction that struck her as being
>>>>>> in stark contrast with what she had experienced moments ago with
>>>>>> Franken.
Alan Baker
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On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you
>>>>>>>>>>> think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>>>>>>> Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas,
>>>>>>> reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story
>>>>>>> public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable"
>>>>>>> interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>
>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>
>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>
>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Yep!
>
>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy Moore's
>> (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow different...
>
> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try again,
> asshole.

No, no, twitboy.

It's analogous in the REPORTING.

That is, both are reports of what other people have said.

You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore case
"hearsay".

So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?


>
>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>
> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>
> It's your only remaining squirm.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her
>>>>>>> husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after
>>>>>>> Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business
>>>>>>> was sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting
>>>>>>> various elected officials, political candidates and celebrities
>>>>>>> and taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with
>>>>>>> CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a
>>>>>>> brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a
>>>>>>> photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close,
>>>>>>> like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put
>>>>>>> his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped
>>>>>>> tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It
>>>>>>> was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen
>>>>>>> act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's
>>>>>>> happening."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her
>>>>>>> husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his
>>>>>>> wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It
>>>>>>> was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo
>>>>>>> was taken, without saying anything to the then-first term
>>>>>>> senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments later, she
>>>>>>> told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described
>>>>>>> that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember
>>>>>>> taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she felt
>>>>>>> disrespected.
>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this
>>>>>>> picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away
>>>>>>> from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and
>>>>>>> some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You
>>>>>>> just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz
>>>>>>> said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him.
>>>>>>> But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day
>>>>>>> but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter
>>>>>>> told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>>>>>>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She
>>>>>>> said she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our
>>>>>>> senator just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face
>>>>>>> is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their bodies
>>>>>>> are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on
>>>>>>> August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the
>>>>>>> photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a
>>>>>>> reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz
>>>>>>> and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to Menz's
>>>>>>> Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not
>>>>>>> considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the
>>>>>>> photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with
>>>>>>> her. Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota
>>>>>>> Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said
>>>>>>> the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our
>>>>>>> arms around each other" -- an interaction that struck her as
>>>>>>> being in stark contrast with what she had experienced moments ago
>>>>>>> with Franken.
>
wulfenite
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On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you
>>>>>>>>>>>> think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>>>>>>>> Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco,
>>>>>>>> Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made
>>>>>>>> her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an
>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>
>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>
>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> Yep!
>>
>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy Moore's
>>> (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow different...
>>
>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try
>> again, asshole.
>
> No, no,

Yes, yes!

> It's analogous in the REPORTING.

Wrong again!

> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.

That particular aspect is true.

> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore case
> "hearsay".

As they are.

> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?

Not "my definition" at all.

The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.

Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on the
Tweeden report.

And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.

Sad performance, troll.

>>
>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>
>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>
>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with
>>>>>>>> her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years
>>>>>>>> after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small
>>>>>>>> business was sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the
>>>>>>>> day meeting various elected officials, political candidates and
>>>>>>>> celebrities and taking photos with them as they stopped by the
>>>>>>>> booth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke
>>>>>>>> with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had
>>>>>>>> a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a
>>>>>>>> photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close,
>>>>>>>> like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put
>>>>>>>> his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped
>>>>>>>> tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It
>>>>>>>> was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen
>>>>>>>> act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's
>>>>>>>> happening."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said
>>>>>>>> her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his
>>>>>>>> wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It
>>>>>>>> was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo
>>>>>>>> was taken, without saying anything to the then-first term
>>>>>>>> senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments later,
>>>>>>>> she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz
>>>>>>>> described that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember
>>>>>>>> taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she
>>>>>>>> felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this
>>>>>>>> picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away
>>>>>>>> from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and
>>>>>>>> some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You
>>>>>>>> just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy Menz
>>>>>>>> said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront him.
>>>>>>>> But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day
>>>>>>>> but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his daughter
>>>>>>>> told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>>>>>>>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She
>>>>>>>> said she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our
>>>>>>>> senator just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's face
>>>>>>>> is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their
>>>>>>>> bodies are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on
>>>>>>>> August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the
>>>>>>>> photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a
>>>>>>>> reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close
>>>>>>>> Menz and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>>>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to
>>>>>>>> Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not
>>>>>>>> considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the
>>>>>>>> photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with
>>>>>>>> her. Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota
>>>>>>>> Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz said
>>>>>>>> the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually put our
>>>>>>>> arms around each other" -- an interaction that struck her as
>>>>>>>> being in stark contrast with what she had experienced moments
>>>>>>>> ago with Franken.
>>
>
Alan Baker
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On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's
>>>>>>>>>>> Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco,
>>>>>>>>> Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made
>>>>>>>>> her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an
>>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Yep!
>>>
>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy Moore's
>>>> (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow different...
>>>
>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try
>>> again, asshole.
>>
>> No, no,
>
> Yes, yes!
>
>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>
> Wrong again!
>
>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>
> That particular aspect is true.
>
>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore case
>> "hearsay".
>
> As they are.
>
>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>
> Not "my definition" at all.
>
> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.

What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the word
you're looking for is "proven".

>
> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on the
> Tweeden report.
>
> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>
> Sad performance, troll.
>
>>>
>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>
>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>
>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with
>>>>>>>>> her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years
>>>>>>>>> after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small
>>>>>>>>> business was sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the
>>>>>>>>> day meeting various elected officials, political candidates and
>>>>>>>>> celebrities and taking photos with them as they stopped by the
>>>>>>>>> booth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke
>>>>>>>>> with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she
>>>>>>>>> had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a
>>>>>>>>> photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close,
>>>>>>>>> like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put
>>>>>>>>> his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped
>>>>>>>>> tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It
>>>>>>>>> was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen
>>>>>>>>> act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God,
>>>>>>>>> what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said
>>>>>>>>> her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind
>>>>>>>>> his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her
>>>>>>>>> head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo
>>>>>>>>> was taken, without saying anything to the then-first term
>>>>>>>>> senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments later,
>>>>>>>>> she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz
>>>>>>>>> described that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember
>>>>>>>>> taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she
>>>>>>>>> felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this
>>>>>>>>> picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away
>>>>>>>>> from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and
>>>>>>>>> some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said. "You
>>>>>>>>> just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy
>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront
>>>>>>>>> him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that day
>>>>>>>>> but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his
>>>>>>>>> daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed the
>>>>>>>>> incident with her daughter immediately after it happened. She
>>>>>>>>> said she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her: "Our
>>>>>>>>> senator just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's
>>>>>>>>> face is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of their
>>>>>>>>> bodies are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on
>>>>>>>>> August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the
>>>>>>>>> photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" --
>>>>>>>>> a reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close
>>>>>>>>> Menz and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>>>>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to
>>>>>>>>> Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not
>>>>>>>>> considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took the
>>>>>>>>> photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed with
>>>>>>>>> her. Standing nearby was another politician -- then-Minnesota
>>>>>>>>> Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz
>>>>>>>>> said the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually
>>>>>>>>> put our arms around each other" -- an interaction that struck
>>>>>>>>> her as being in stark contrast with what she had experienced
>>>>>>>>> moments ago with Franken.
>>>
>>
>
wulfenite
2017-11-20 21:11:26 UTC
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On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco,
>>>>>>>>>> Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made
>>>>>>>>>> her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an
>>>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> Yep!
>>>>
>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy Moore's
>>>>> (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow different...
>>>>
>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try
>>>> again, asshole.
>>>
>>> No, no,
>>
>> Yes, yes!
>>
>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>
>> Wrong again!
>>
>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>
>> That particular aspect is true.
>>
>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore case
>>> "hearsay".
>>
>> As they are.
>>
>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>
>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>
>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>
> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the word
> you're looking for is "proven".

Read it again and again until you can identify it.

Go on now, do as I say.

>>
>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on the
>> Tweeden report.
>>
>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>
>> Sad performance, troll.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>
>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>
>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with
>>>>>>>>>> her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years
>>>>>>>>>> after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small
>>>>>>>>>> business was sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the
>>>>>>>>>> day meeting various elected officials, political candidates
>>>>>>>>>> and celebrities and taking photos with them as they stopped by
>>>>>>>>>> the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke
>>>>>>>>>> with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she
>>>>>>>>>> had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a
>>>>>>>>>> photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close,
>>>>>>>>>> like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put
>>>>>>>>>> his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped
>>>>>>>>>> tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side.
>>>>>>>>>> It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the
>>>>>>>>>> brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my
>>>>>>>>>> God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said
>>>>>>>>>> her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind
>>>>>>>>>> his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her
>>>>>>>>>> head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the
>>>>>>>>>> photo was taken, without saying anything to the then-first
>>>>>>>>>> term senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments
>>>>>>>>>> later, she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz
>>>>>>>>>> described that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not remember
>>>>>>>>>> taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly" that she
>>>>>>>>>> felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this
>>>>>>>>>> picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away
>>>>>>>>>> from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall and
>>>>>>>>>> some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz said.
>>>>>>>>>> "You just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to confront
>>>>>>>>>> him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that
>>>>>>>>>> day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his
>>>>>>>>>> daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed
>>>>>>>>>> the incident with her daughter immediately after it happened.
>>>>>>>>>> She said she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her:
>>>>>>>>>> "Our senator just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's
>>>>>>>>>> face is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of
>>>>>>>>>> their bodies are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time, on
>>>>>>>>>> August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under the
>>>>>>>>>> photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width apart" --
>>>>>>>>>> a reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how physically close
>>>>>>>>>> Menz and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>>>>>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to
>>>>>>>>>> Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not
>>>>>>>>>> considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took
>>>>>>>>>> the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also stayed
>>>>>>>>>> with her. Standing nearby was another politician --
>>>>>>>>>> then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz
>>>>>>>>>> said the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually
>>>>>>>>>> put our arms around each other" -- an interaction that struck
>>>>>>>>>> her as being in stark contrast with what she had experienced
>>>>>>>>>> moments ago with Franken.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 21:12:50 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco,
>>>>>>>>>>> Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden
>>>>>>>>>>> made her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an
>>>>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy Moore's
>>>>>> (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow different...
>>>>>
>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try
>>>>> again, asshole.
>>>>
>>>> No, no,
>>>
>>> Yes, yes!
>>>
>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>
>>> Wrong again!
>>>
>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>
>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>
>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore
>>>> case "hearsay".
>>>
>>> As they are.
>>>
>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>
>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>
>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>
>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the word
>> you're looking for is "proven".
>
> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>
> Go on now, do as I say.

I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer to what you claim has
been proven, then that is your tacit admission that you have nothing.

:-)

>
>>>
>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on the
>>> Tweeden report.
>>>
>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>
>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>
>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with
>>>>>>>>>>> her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two
>>>>>>>>>>> years after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's
>>>>>>>>>>> small business was sponsoring a local radio booth, and she
>>>>>>>>>>> spent the day meeting various elected officials, political
>>>>>>>>>>> candidates and celebrities and taking photos with them as
>>>>>>>>>>> they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke
>>>>>>>>>>> with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she
>>>>>>>>>>> had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap
>>>>>>>>>>> a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really
>>>>>>>>>>> close, like awkward close, and as my husband took the
>>>>>>>>>>> picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz said.
>>>>>>>>>>> "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side.
>>>>>>>>>>> It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the
>>>>>>>>>>> brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my
>>>>>>>>>>> God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said
>>>>>>>>>>> her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind
>>>>>>>>>>> his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her
>>>>>>>>>>> head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the
>>>>>>>>>>> photo was taken, without saying anything to the then-first
>>>>>>>>>>> term senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments
>>>>>>>>>>> later, she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz described that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly"
>>>>>>>>>>> that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking
>>>>>>>>>>> this picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz came
>>>>>>>>>>> away from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall
>>>>>>>>>>> and some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz
>>>>>>>>>>> said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off
>>>>>>>>>>> of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to
>>>>>>>>>>> confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that
>>>>>>>>>>> day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his
>>>>>>>>>>> daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed
>>>>>>>>>>> the incident with her daughter immediately after it happened.
>>>>>>>>>>> She said she distinctly recalls her son-in-law saying to her:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Our senator just groped my wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's
>>>>>>>>>>> face is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of
>>>>>>>>>>> their bodies are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time,
>>>>>>>>>>> on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented under
>>>>>>>>>>> the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic) width
>>>>>>>>>>> apart" -- a reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to how
>>>>>>>>>>> physically close Menz and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al Franken
>>>>>>>>>>> TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is visible to
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not
>>>>>>>>>>> considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took
>>>>>>>>>>> the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also
>>>>>>>>>>> stayed with her. Standing nearby was another politician --
>>>>>>>>>>> then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz
>>>>>>>>>>> said the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually
>>>>>>>>>>> put our arms around each other" -- an interaction that struck
>>>>>>>>>>> her as being in stark contrast with what she had experienced
>>>>>>>>>>> moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
wulfenite
2017-11-20 21:19:46 UTC
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On 11/20/2017 2:12 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden
>>>>>>>>>>>> made her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an
>>>>>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy
>>>>>>> Moore's (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow
>>>>>>> different...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try
>>>>>> again, asshole.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, no,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, yes!
>>>>
>>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again!
>>>>
>>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>>
>>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>>
>>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore
>>>>> case "hearsay".
>>>>
>>>> As they are.
>>>>
>>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>>
>>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>>
>>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>>
>>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the word
>>> you're looking for is "proven".
>>
>> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>>
>> Go on now, do as I say.
>
> I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer

You will do as I say or be seen as a particularly sad buffoon.

....even for a troll...

>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on the
>>>> Tweeden report.
>>>>
>>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>>
>>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair
>>>>>>>>>>>> with her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost
>>>>>>>>>>>> two years after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her
>>>>>>>>>>>> father's small business was sponsoring a local radio booth,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and she spent the day meeting various elected officials,
>>>>>>>>>>>> political candidates and celebrities and taking photos with
>>>>>>>>>>>> them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke
>>>>>>>>>>>> with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she
>>>>>>>>>>>> had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap
>>>>>>>>>>>> a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really
>>>>>>>>>>>> close, like awkward close, and as my husband took the
>>>>>>>>>>>> picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>> said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my
>>>>>>>>>>>> God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him,"
>>>>>>>>>>>> said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened
>>>>>>>>>>>> behind his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head
>>>>>>>>>>>> against her head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> photo was taken, without saying anything to the then-first
>>>>>>>>>>>> term senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments
>>>>>>>>>>>> later, she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz described that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt "badly"
>>>>>>>>>>>> that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking
>>>>>>>>>>>> this picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>> came away from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall
>>>>>>>>>>>> and some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>> said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that off
>>>>>>>>>>>> of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that
>>>>>>>>>>>> day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his
>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>> the incident with her daughter immediately after it
>>>>>>>>>>>> happened. She said she distinctly recalls her son-in-law
>>>>>>>>>>>> saying to her: "Our senator just groped my wife right in
>>>>>>>>>>>> front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's
>>>>>>>>>>>> face is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of
>>>>>>>>>>>> their bodies are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time,
>>>>>>>>>>>> on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented
>>>>>>>>>>>> under the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic)
>>>>>>>>>>>> width apart" -- a reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to
>>>>>>>>>>>> how physically close Menz and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al
>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is
>>>>>>>>>>>> visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took
>>>>>>>>>>>> the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also
>>>>>>>>>>>> stayed with her. Standing nearby was another politician --
>>>>>>>>>>>> then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>> said the congressman asked her whether they should "mutually
>>>>>>>>>>>> put our arms around each other" -- an interaction that
>>>>>>>>>>>> struck her as being in stark contrast with what she had
>>>>>>>>>>>> experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 21:21:14 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 1:19 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 2:12 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy
>>>>>>>> Moore's (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow
>>>>>>>> different...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try
>>>>>>> again, asshole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, no,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, yes!
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again!
>>>>>
>>>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>>>
>>>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore
>>>>>> case "hearsay".
>>>>>
>>>>> As they are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>>>
>>>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the word
>>>> you're looking for is "proven".
>>>
>>> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>>>
>>> Go on now, do as I say.
>>
>> I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer
>
> You will do as I say or be seen as a particularly sad buffoon.
>
> ....even for a troll...

So you admit that you can't provide an answer.

OK.

:-)

>
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on the
>>>>> Tweeden report.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two years after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> father's small business was sponsoring a local radio booth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and she spent the day meeting various elected officials,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> political candidates and celebrities and taking photos with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said she had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head
>>>>>>>>>>>>> against her head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo was taken, without saying anything to the then-first
>>>>>>>>>>>>> term senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments
>>>>>>>>>>>>> later, she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz described that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms. Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> came away from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> off of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least," Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN that his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the incident with her daughter immediately after it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened. She said she distinctly recalls her son-in-law
>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying to her: "Our senator just groped my wife right in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the senator's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> face is pressed up against Menz's but the lower halves of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their bodies are not shown. Both of them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker, commented
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't Bibles (sic)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> width apart" -- a reference, Thunker explained to CNN, to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how physically close Menz and Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she took
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stayed with her. Standing nearby was another politician --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline, Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said the congressman asked her whether they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mutually put our arms around each other" -- an interaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that struck her as being in stark contrast with what she
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
wulfenite
2017-11-20 21:30:46 UTC
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On 11/20/2017 2:21 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 1:19 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 2:12 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an SNL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy
>>>>>>>>> Moore's (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow
>>>>>>>>> different...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do try
>>>>>>>> again, asshole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, no,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, yes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore
>>>>>>> case "hearsay".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As they are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>>>>
>>>>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the
>>>>> word you're looking for is "proven".
>>>>
>>>> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>>>>
>>>> Go on now, do as I say.
>>>
>>> I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer
>>
>> You will do as I say or be seen as a particularly sad buffoon.
>>
>> ....even for a troll...
>
> So you admit that you can't provide an answer.
>
> OK.
>
> :-)

The question went to YOU, where it was ignored.

When you answer MY question I will address yours.

Waiting is...



>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on the
>>>>>> Tweeden report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two years after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> father's small business was sponsoring a local radio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booth, and she spent the day meeting various elected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials, political candidates and celebrities and taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said she had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against her head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo was taken, without saying anything to the then-first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> term senator. When she reconnected with her husband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moments later, she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Menz described that conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking this picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that Ms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz came away from our interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the mall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed the incident with her daughter immediately after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it happened. She said she distinctly recalls her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just groped my wife
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senator's face is pressed up against Menz's but the lower
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halves of their bodies are not shown. Both of them are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commented under the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and Franken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also stayed with her. Standing nearby was another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said the congressman asked her whether they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mutually put our arms around each other" -- an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interaction that struck her as being in stark contrast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 21:34:32 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 1:30 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 2:21 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 1:19 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 2:12 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNL meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tweeden made her story public. Menz said she wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share an "uncomfortable" interaction that left her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy
>>>>>>>>>> Moore's (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow
>>>>>>>>>> different...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do
>>>>>>>>> try again, asshole.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, no,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, yes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong again!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy Moore
>>>>>>>> case "hearsay".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As they are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the
>>>>>> word you're looking for is "proven".
>>>>>
>>>>> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go on now, do as I say.
>>>>
>>>> I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer
>>>
>>> You will do as I say or be seen as a particularly sad buffoon.
>>>
>>> ....even for a troll...
>>
>> So you admit that you can't provide an answer.
>>
>> OK.
>>
>> :-)
>
> The question went to YOU, where it was ignored.

What question is that?

>
> When you answer MY question I will address yours.
>
> Waiting is...

Indeed.

You'll do anything rather than address on topic points.

:-)

>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on
>>>>>>> the Tweeden report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two years after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> father's small business was sponsoring a local radio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booth, and she spent the day meeting various elected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials, political candidates and celebrities and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said she had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened behind his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his head against her head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo was taken, without saying anything to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then-first term senator. When she reconnected with her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband moments later, she told him: "He totally grabbed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking this picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms. Menz came away from our interaction feeling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mall and some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that off of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed the incident with her daughter immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after it happened. She said she distinctly recalls her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just groped my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senator's face is pressed up against Menz's but the lower
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halves of their bodies are not shown. Both of them are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commented under the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also stayed with her. Standing nearby was another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said the congressman asked her whether they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mutually put our arms around each other" -- an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interaction that struck her as being in stark contrast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
wulfenite
2017-11-20 22:53:19 UTC
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On 11/20/2017 2:34 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 1:30 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 2:21 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 1:19 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:12 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNL meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Tweeden made her story public. Menz said she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction that left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy
>>>>>>>>>>> Moore's (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow
>>>>>>>>>>> different...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do
>>>>>>>>>> try again, asshole.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, no,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, yes!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong again!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy
>>>>>>>>> Moore case "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As they are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the
>>>>>>> word you're looking for is "proven".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go on now, do as I say.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer
>>>>
>>>> You will do as I say or be seen as a particularly sad buffoon.
>>>>
>>>> ....even for a troll...
>>>
>>> So you admit that you can't provide an answer.
>>>
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> The question went to YOU, where it was ignored.
>
> What question is that?

Identify the non-hearsay material in the article.

>>
>> When you answer MY question I will address yours.
>>
>> Waiting is...
>
> Indeed.
>
> You'll do anything rather than address on topic points.
>
> :-)

I just did that and more.

Which is why you're spinning past this latest Frankenshite.

>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on
>>>>>>>> the Tweeden report.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with her husband and father in the summer of 2010,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost two years after Franken was elected to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate. Her father's small business was sponsoring a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting various
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected officials, political candidates and celebrities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said she had a brief and cordial exchange with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened behind his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his head against her head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the photo was taken, without saying anything to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then-first term senator. When she reconnected with her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband moments later, she told him: "He totally grabbed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking this picture," Franken said. "I feel badly that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms. Menz came away from our interaction feeling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mall and some random person grabbing your butt," Lindsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I want to wash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that off of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock, really."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed the incident with her daughter immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after it happened. She said she distinctly recalls her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just groped my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senator's face is pressed up against Menz's but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lower halves of their bodies are not shown. Both of them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commented under the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the clothing covering the immediate area of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buttocks" is not considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also stayed with her. Standing nearby was another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said the congressman asked her whether they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mutually put our arms around each other" -- an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interaction that struck her as being in stark contrast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Alan Baker
2017-11-20 22:56:11 UTC
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On 2017-11-20 2:53 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 2:34 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-20 1:30 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2017 2:21 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:19 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:12 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNL meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Tweeden made her story public. Menz said she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moore's (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>> different...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do
>>>>>>>>>>> try again, asshole.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, no,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, yes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong again!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy
>>>>>>>>>> Moore case "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As they are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the
>>>>>>>> word you're looking for is "proven".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go on now, do as I say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer
>>>>>
>>>>> You will do as I say or be seen as a particularly sad buffoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> ....even for a troll...
>>>>
>>>> So you admit that you can't provide an answer.
>>>>
>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> The question went to YOU, where it was ignored.
>>
>> What question is that?
>
> Identify the non-hearsay material in the article.

I have no obligation to do so, and that's not a question I can answer.



>
>>>
>>> When you answer MY question I will address yours.
>>>
>>> Waiting is...
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>> You'll do anything rather than address on topic points.
>>
>> :-)
>
> I just did that and more.
>

Nope.

> Which is why you're spinning past this latest Frankenshite.

According to your standard, all of it is hearsay.

If you want to claim it's not, explain how.

:-)

>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on
>>>>>>>>> the Tweeden report.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fair with her husband and father in the summer of 2010,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost two years after Franken was elected to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate. Her father's small business was sponsoring a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various elected officials, political candidates and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> celebrities and taking photos with them as they stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said she had a brief and cordial exchange with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really close, like awkward close, and as my husband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. It was definitely on my butt," she said,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recalling that the brazen act lasted three or four
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him," said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened behind his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his head against her head. It was over pretty quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the photo was taken, without saying anything to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then-first term senator. When she reconnected with her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband moments later, she told him: "He totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounded by hundreds of people, and I certainly don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking this picture," Franken said. "I feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> badly that Ms. Menz came away from our interaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mall and some random person grabbing your butt,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day but didn't witness the moment. But he told CNN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his daughter told him about the incident right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed the incident with her daughter immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after it happened. She said she distinctly recalls her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just groped my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senator's face is pressed up against Menz's but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lower halves of their bodies are not shown. Both of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commented under the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the clothing covering the immediate area of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buttocks" is not considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010 has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also stayed with her. Standing nearby was another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said the congressman asked her whether they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mutually put our arms around each other" -- an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interaction that struck her as being in stark contrast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
wulfenite
2017-11-20 23:04:15 UTC
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On 11/20/2017 3:56 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-20 2:53 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 2:34 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-20 1:30 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:21 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:19 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:12 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:11 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 2:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 1:06 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 1:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 12:43 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 12:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 11:12 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:54 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:53 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:47 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:45 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2017 11:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-20 10:07 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 10:54 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:44:37 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <***@present.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ouso9i$h3l$***@news.datemas.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-19 11:54 AM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 instances of hearsay then, so???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You keep using that word.  I do not think it means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you think it means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The statements of witnesses and victims are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hearsay" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hearsay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definition of hearsay noun from the Oxford Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learner's Dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   hearsay noun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BrE /ˈhɪəseɪ/ ; NAmE /ˈhɪrseɪ/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [uncountable]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that you have heard from another person but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not (definitely) know to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't make a decision based on hearsay and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guesswork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearsay evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So by that standard, is your post about Franken in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNL meeting hearsay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting - yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Airplane - no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But wait....there's MORE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Tweeden made her story public. Menz said she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left her feeling "gross."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to you this is all hearsay, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "all", no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What parts aren't and why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll let you analyze it and answer that for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be readily apparent, lol!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this is completely analogous to the reporting of Roy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moore's (now 8) accusers, and since you claim it's somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is NOT "completely analogous" as no spit was swapped - do
>>>>>>>>>>>> try again, asshole.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, no,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, yes!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's analogous in the REPORTING.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong again!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is, both are reports of what other people have said.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That particular aspect is true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You declared reports of the victims' statements in the Roy
>>>>>>>>>>> Moore case "hearsay".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As they are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So why is this report not hearsay, but your definition?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not "my definition" at all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The report contains material that is proved - ergo not hearsay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What material does it provide that is "proved" (by the way, the
>>>>>>>>> word you're looking for is "proven".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read it again and again until you can identify it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go on now, do as I say.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will accept that if you cannot provide an answer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will do as I say or be seen as a particularly sad buffoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ....even for a troll...
>>>>>
>>>>> So you admit that you can't provide an answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> The question went to YOU, where it was ignored.
>>>
>>> What question is that?
>>
>> Identify the non-hearsay material in the article.
>
> I have no obligation to do so,

Now you do.

I obligated you, troll.

> and that's not a question I can answer.

Then you're either incompetent or contumacious - which one is it?

Both?


>>
>>>>
>>>> When you answer MY question I will address yours.
>>>>
>>>> Waiting is...
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>> You'll do anything rather than address on topic points.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> I just did that and more.
>>
>
> Nope.
>
>> Which is why you're spinning past this latest Frankenshite.
>
> According to your standard, all of it is hearsay.

Nope.

Some is not.

> If you want to claim it's not, explain how.
>
> :-)

That will be something you understand as you examine the article.

Do it NOW.

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Physical evidence, the very stumbling block that maimed you on
>>>>>>>>>> the Tweeden report.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And you're so dense you can't seem to acknowledge it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sad performance, troll.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...YOU point out where and how.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You flail and pretend ignorance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's your only remaining squirm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fair with her husband and father in the summer of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010, almost two years after Franken was elected to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Senate. Her father's small business was sponsoring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various elected officials, political candidates and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> celebrities and taking photos with them as they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped by the booth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said she had a brief and cordial exchange with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the senator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in really close, like awkward close, and as my husband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> butt cheek."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. It was definitely on my butt," she said,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recalling that the brazen act lasted three or four
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's happening."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He reached around her and kind of pulled her into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him," said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what happened behind his wife. "He pulled her in and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pushed his head against her head. It was over pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quick."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the photo was taken, without saying anything to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then-first term senator. When she reconnected with her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband moments later, she told him: "He totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation the same way to CNN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a statement to CNN Sunday, Franken said he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember taking the photo with Menz and that he felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "badly" that she felt disrespected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I take thousands of photos at the state fair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounded by hundreds of people, and I certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't remember taking this picture," Franken said. "I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interaction feeling disrespected."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I felt gross. It'd be like being walking through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mall and some random person grabbing your butt,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lindsay Menz said. "You just feel gross. Like ew, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to wash that off of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was upset. I wasn't happy about it in the least,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Menz said. "He was already gone and I wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to confront him. But yeah -- I was in shock,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's father, Mark Brown, was also in the radio booth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that day but didn't witness the moment. But he told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CNN that his daughter told him about the incident
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right away.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz's mother, Jodi Brown, also told CNN that she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed the incident with her daughter immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after it happened. She said she distinctly recalls her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son-in-law saying to her: "Our senator just groped my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wife right in front of me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the photo of Menz and Franken, the side of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senator's face is pressed up against Menz's but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lower halves of their bodies are not shown. Both of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are smiling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz posted the photo with Franken on Facebook at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, on August 27, 2010. Her sister, Cari Thunker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commented under the photo: "Sorry, but you two aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibles (sic) width apart" -- a reference, Thunker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explained to CNN, to how physically close Menz and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken were in the photo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz responded to her sister on Facebook: "Dude -- Al
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" (The exchange
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is visible to Menz's Facebook friends.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the clothing covering the immediate area of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buttocks" is not considered criminal sexual conduct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz told CNN that what happened immediately after she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took the photo with Franken that summer day in 2010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has also stayed with her. Standing nearby was another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician -- then-Minnesota Rep. John Kline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As she was getting ready to take a picture with Kline,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menz said the congressman asked her whether they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should "mutually put our arms around each other" -- an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interaction that struck her as being in stark contrast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what she had experienced moments ago with Franken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
wulfenite
2017-11-16 21:41:27 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>
>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and
>>>> 19. Age
>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>
>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>
>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>>>
>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you,
>>>> AT ALL,
>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>>>
>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>> seducing minors.
>>>
>>
>> Let's start here:
>>
>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>
>>
>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>
> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?


Is this YOU:

https://www.facebook.com/allanrx
Alan Baker
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On 2017-11-16 1:41 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and
>>>>> 19. Age
>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>
>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>>>>
>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you,
>>>>> AT ALL,
>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let's start here:
>>>
>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>
>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>
>
> Is this YOU:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/allanrx
>
>
>
>
>

I should have known spelling would be a challenge for you...
wulfenite
2017-11-17 00:09:31 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-16 1:41 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and
>>>>>> 19. Age
>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you,
>>>>>> AT ALL,
>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>
>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>
>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>
>>
>> Is this YOU:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/allanrx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I should have known spelling would be a challenge for you...


Yer time is a comin' shitbag, believe it.
Alan Baker
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On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2017-11-16 1:41 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>
>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this YOU:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/allanrx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I should have known spelling would be a challenge for you...
>
>
> Yer time is a comin' shitbag, believe it.

You need a comma after "comin'", doofus.

:-)
wulfenite
2017-11-17 15:28:40 UTC
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On 11/16/2017 5:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2017-11-16 4:09 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 4:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-16 1:41 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 1:38 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-16 12:33 PM, wulfenite wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2017 12:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:54:30 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>>>>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18
>>>>>>>> and 19. Age
>>>>>>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys...
>>>>>>>> do I?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in
>>>>>>>> you, AT ALL,
>>>>>>>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your
>>>>>>>> jealousy here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder what your views would be if Bill Clinton was charged with
>>>>>>> seducing minors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's start here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6616/sites/320/2017/11/15155723/leeann-airplane-pic.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your DNC abusers will ALL go down, Swillerator!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's "abuse" to pretend to touch the armoured vest of a reporter?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this YOU:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/allanrx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I should have known spelling would be a challenge for you...
>>
>>
>> Yer time is a comin' shitbag, believe it.
>
> You need a comma

You misspelled "coma".


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Gronk
2017-11-19 05:59:08 UTC
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AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
>
>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>
>
> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.
>
> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.

Did his mother say it was ok?

> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>
> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>
TOS tRudey now!
2017-11-19 16:59:29 UTC
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On 11/18/2017 10:59 PM, Gronk wrote:
> AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...
>>
>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>
>>
>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19.
>> Age
>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama?  16.  Today?  16.
>>
>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>
> Did his mother say it was ok?
>

Yes, yer mommy DID!
Governor Swill
2017-11-20 05:55:17 UTC
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:59:08 -0700, Gronk <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
>>
>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>
>>
>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.
>>
>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>
>Did his mother say it was ok?

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

Swill
--
DNC issues are presented as equivalent to criminal allegations
against Donny and friends. The problem is nothing in the Democrat
kertuffle is alleged to be illegal. However unsavoury it
sounds, it's Democrats fighting with Democrats and doesn't
involve the general public. The allegations against Donny
and friends do involve crimes against the people of the
republic. - Siri Cruise
Gronk
2017-11-27 05:11:16 UTC
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Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:59:08 -0700, Gronk <***@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
>>>
>>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>>
>>>
>>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
>>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.
>>>
>>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>>
>> Did his mother say it was ok?
>
> Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

Heh.
Ed Chigliak
2017-12-05 02:53:51 UTC
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Gronk wrote

> AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:10:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
>>
>>> Roy Moore does not rule out that he may have
>>> dated teen girls when he was in his 30s
>>>
>>
>> So fucking what? Age of consent, dumb ass. Teen STILL means 18 and 19. Age
>> of consent 30 years ago in Alabama? 16. Today? 16.
>>
>> I fucked a 17 year old when I was 26... big fucking deal.
>
> Did his mother say it was ok?
>
>> I don't hear you screech when WOMEN teachers, who are supposed to be
>> taking care of our kids, get caught fucking 14 year old boys... do I?
>>
>> If YOU could have been able to get a young girl interested in you, AT ALL,
>> let alone at 30, you wouldn't feel the need to show your jealousy here.
>>
>
>

Rightists having sex with teenagers. Where have we heard that before mr.
trump?
Lauer's Sex Toy World
2017-12-05 15:24:25 UTC
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On 12/4/2017 7:53 PM, Ed Chigliak wrote:

>
> Rightists having sex with teenagers. Where have we heard that before mr.
> trump?
>
Why aboard Klintoon's "Lolita Express", you exterminable albasani whore!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589628/Report-Bill-Clinton-jumped-aboard-disgraced-sex-offender-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Lolita-Express-plane-junkets-26-TIMES-just-three-years.html
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