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According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America -- It's Not Even Close
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AlleyCat
2018-02-21 23:15:46 UTC
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 10:30:54 -0800, Rudy Canoza says...

>
> On 2/21/2018 10:26 AM, Tom Sr. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 2:19:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> >> According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than
> >> Rifles In America...
> >
> >
> > I find it all too typical and very reflective of the hypocritical and twisted thinking of those on the far-right that after many months of *attacking* the credibility of the FBI, that they would suddenly start citing "statistics" by that federal agency.
>
> It kills me to admit this, homo hummel, but I think I have to say that
> at long last, you finally have made a valid and good point.

Fucking bullshit. "We've" blasted the FBI for what they've truly done...
no one made the shit up that THEY did. That does NOT preclude "us" from
using their statistics, you 98lb. weakling basement dweller.

The acts the FBI HIERARCHY has done politically, NEEDED to be addressed.
No one is impugning the rank and file at the FBI... it's those in charge
who have sullied it's reputation... mainly Comey, but there are others who
have used the office as their own personal covert political spying
operation.


1. After Dylann Roof killed nine South Carolina parishioners in cold
blood, James Comey admitted that an error in their background check system
allowed Roof to legally buy his gun. "We are all sick this happened,"
Comey said of the massive screw-up.

2. Shortly after the NSA scandal exploded in 2013, the FBI was exposed
conducting its own data mining on innocent Americans; the agency,
Bloomberg reported, retains that material for decades (even if no
wrongdoing is found). This is particularly ironic since Comey largely
launched his political career by aligning himself with Sen. Schumer during
the Bush Administration, making himself known as an opponent of a
controversial surveillance program.

3. From 2013-2014, the FBI authorized informants to break the law more
than 11,000 times, a steep increase from the years prior; these
allowances, which the FBI calls "otherwise illegal activity," is part of a
controversial program that has been accused of resulting in the accidental
death of many informants (amongst other unanticipated consequences).

4. Comey made an embarrassing gaffe during a speech at the Holocaust
Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. in 2015, when he suggested Poland was
an "accomplice" to Nazi Germany during the Holocaust. The comments angered
America's allies in Poland, whose foreign ministry summoned the U.S.
ambassador for reprimanding. The ambassador, Stephen Mull, later
apologized on Comey's behalf.

5. When the FBI demanded Apple create a "backdoor" that would allow law
enforcement agencies to unlock the cell phones of various suspects, the
company refused, sparking a battle between the feds and America's biggest
tech company. What makes this incident indicative of Comey's questionable
management of the agency is that a) The FBI jumped the gun, as they were
indeed ultimately able to crack the San Bernardino terrorist's phone, and
b) Almost every other major national security figure sided with Apple
(from former CIA Director General Petraeus to former CIA Director James
Woolsey to former director of the NSA, General Michael Hayden), warning
that such a "crack" would inevitably wind up in the wrong hands.

6. In 2015, the FBI conducted a controversial raid on a Texas political
meeting, finger printing, photographing, and seizing phones from attendees
(some in the group believe in restoring Texas as an independent
constitutional republic).

7. During its investigation into Hillary Clinton's mishandling of
classified material, the FBI made an unusual deal in which Clinton aides
were both given immunity and allowed to destroy their laptops.

8. Before Comey's tenure, the FBI came under attack for not taking
seriously enough the threat from terror suspects they interviewed. The FBI
interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev but let him go; Russia sent the Obama
Administration a second warning, but the FBI opted against investigating
him again. Earlier, the FBI had possession of emails sent by Nidal Hasan
saying he wanted to kill his fellow soldiers to protect the Taliban -- but
didn't intervene, leading many critics to argue the tragedy that resulted
in the death of 31 Americans at Fort Hood could have been prevented. After
Comey took over, the sae unfortunate trend continued. The father of the
radical Islamist who detonated a backpack bomb in New York City in 2016
alerted the FBI to his son's radicalization. The FBI, however, cleared
Ahmad Khan Rahami after a brief interview.

9. The FBI also investigated the terrorist who killed 49 people and
wounded 53 more at the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, Fla. Despite a more
than 10-month investigation of Omar Mateen -- during which Mateen
admitting lying to agents -- the FBI opted against pressing further and
closed its case.

10. CBS recently reported that when two terrorists sought to kill
Americans attending the "Draw Muhammad" event in Garland, Texas, the FBI
not only had an understanding an attack was coming, but actually had an
undercover agent traveling with the Islamists, Elton Simpson and Nadir
Soofi. The FBI has refused to comment on why the agent on the scene did
not intervene during the attack.

11. The bureau "dropped the ball" after they were alerted that someone
with the user name Nikolas Cruz posted on social media that he aspired to
be "a professional school shooter," according to a former member of the
FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Forces.

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Governor Swill
2018-02-22 07:27:06 UTC
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:15:46 -0600, AlleyCat <***@aohell.com> wrote:

>
>On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 10:30:54 -0800, Rudy Canoza says...
>
>>
>> On 2/21/2018 10:26 AM, Tom Sr. wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 2:19:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> >> According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than
>> >> Rifles In America...
>> >
>> >
>> > I find it all too typical and very reflective of the hypocritical and twisted thinking of those on the far-right that after many months of *attacking* the credibility of the FBI, that they would suddenly start citing "statistics" by that federal agency.
>>
>> It kills me to admit this, homo hummel, but I think I have to say that
>> at long last, you finally have made a valid and good point.
>
>Fucking bullshit. "We've" blasted the FBI for what they've truly done...
>no one made the shit up that THEY did. That does NOT preclude "us" from
>using their statistics, you 98lb. weakling basement dweller.

Comey isn't at the FBI anymore. So why are you picking on him? Why
not go all the way back to J Edgar who routinely did warrantless
surveillance on American citizens. When he got caught doing it with
Nixon's enemies list as a guide, Congress acted by establishing the
FISA courts.

>The acts the FBI HIERARCHY has done politically, NEEDED to be addressed.
>No one is impugning the rank and file at the FBI...

Sure you are. They're the ones doing the actual work.

>it's those in charge
>who have sullied it's reputation... mainly Comey, but there are others who
>have used the office as their own personal covert political spying
>operation.

The FBI under Comey isn't acting any differently than it has under any
other director. Your complaint isn't with the FBI's practices, but
with their investigations of the friends and associates of Donald
Trump, many of whom have lied repeatedly to Federal and Congressional
investigators, pled guilty to other crimes, and been shown to have
engaged in money laundering in violation of government sanctions
against an American adversary, Russia.

>1. After Dylann Roof killed nine South Carolina parishioners in cold
>blood, James Comey admitted that an error in their background check system
>allowed Roof to legally buy his gun. "We are all sick this happened,"
>Comey said of the massive screw-up.

"Mistakes were made." - George Bush on the justification for invading
Iraq He killed a lot more Americans than Roof ever dreamed of.

>2. Shortly after the NSA scandal exploded in 2013, the FBI was exposed
>conducting its own data mining on innocent Americans; the agency,
>Bloomberg reported, retains that material for decades (even if no
>wrongdoing is found). This is particularly ironic since Comey largely
>launched his political career by aligning himself with Sen. Schumer during
>the Bush Administration, making himself known as an opponent of a
>controversial surveillance program.

Funny how when Eric Snowden blew the whistle on government warrantless
surveiling of American citizens, you guys on the right raised merry
hell that he was a traitor and needed to be killed for exposing
government secrets. Now, you want to whine about one (just one) of
the agencies that did so under direction from President Bush. Why
aren't you complaining about him, Clapper, the NSA and so on? After
all, it was Clapper who, when asked if his NSA had ever collected data
on ordinary, innocent Americans, responded by scratching his forehead
and replying, "Not wittingly."

>3. From 2013-2014, the FBI authorized informants to break the law more
>than 11,000 times, a steep increase from the years prior; these
>allowances, which the FBI calls "otherwise illegal activity," is part of a
>controversial program that has been accused of resulting in the accidental
>death of many informants (amongst other unanticipated consequences).

This is not uncommon and happens at all levels of law enforcement that
uses informants. Why is it suddenly a problem? Oh, yeah, because
Comey was investigating the Trump staffers who kept making trips to
Moscow as paid Kremlin advisors and money launderers. Go figure.

>4. Comey made an embarrassing gaffe during a speech at the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. in 2015,

Ok. Hold up. Comey made "a" gaffe three years ago? Trump makes
several gaffes a day. Hell, Joe Biden makes more gaffes than one
every three years.

> when he suggested Poland was
>an "accomplice" to Nazi Germany during the Holocaust. The comments angered
>America's allies in Poland, whose foreign ministry summoned the U.S.
>ambassador for reprimanding. The ambassador, Stephen Mull, later
>apologized on Comey's behalf.

Doesn't change that what he said was fact. There were plenty of
Polish collaborators or the Nazis would never have got away with
stuffing all the Jews into the Warsaw Ghetto. That said, the Polish
people did what they could against Germany. The Polish resistance was
larger, better equipped and more effective than the fabled French
Resistance.

>5. When the FBI demanded Apple create a "backdoor" that would allow law
>enforcement agencies to unlock the cell phones of various suspects, the
>company refused, sparking a battle between the feds and America's biggest
>tech company. What makes this incident indicative of Comey's questionable
>management of the agency is that a) The FBI jumped the gun, as they were
>indeed ultimately able to crack the San Bernardino terrorist's phone, and
>b) Almost every other major national security figure sided with Apple
>(from former CIA Director General Petraeus to former CIA Director James
>Woolsey to former director of the NSA, General Michael Hayden), warning
>that such a "crack" would inevitably wind up in the wrong hands.

How does this bear on Comey, exactly? So the FBI figured a way into
the phone. That was predictable. Comey didn't personally do it and
wasn't involved with the work. And it wasn't the Comey or the FBI
that demanded that back door, it was the DOJ, the FBI's boss.

>6. In 2015, the FBI conducted a controversial raid on a Texas political
>meeting, finger printing, photographing, and seizing phones from attendees
>(some in the group believe in restoring Texas as an independent
>constitutional republic).

Which would be a rebellion against the national government which makes
this FBI action not only legal, but appropriate.

>7. During its investigation into Hillary Clinton's mishandling of
>classified material, the FBI made an unusual deal in which Clinton aides
>were both given immunity and allowed to destroy their laptops.

And your proof of this better be more than something you read on the
internet somewhere.

>8. Before Comey's tenure, the FBI came under attack for not taking
>seriously enough the threat from terror suspects they interviewed. The FBI
>interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev but let him go; Russia sent the Obama
>Administration a second warning, but the FBI opted against investigating
>him again. Earlier, the FBI had possession of emails sent by Nidal Hasan
>saying he wanted to kill his fellow soldiers to protect the Taliban -- but
>didn't intervene, leading many critics to argue the tragedy that resulted
>in the death of 31 Americans at Fort Hood could have been prevented. After
>Comey took over, the sae unfortunate trend continued. The father of the
>radical Islamist who detonated a backpack bomb in New York City in 2016
>alerted the FBI to his son's radicalization. The FBI, however, cleared
>Ahmad Khan Rahami after a brief interview.

It's wonderful to be able to sit back in hindsight and complain about
what someone else should have predicted. Unfortunately, clairvoyance
is a fantasy and nobody can predict the future, particularly the
future actions of an individual.

In America, it's very difficult to jail anybody because they *might*
commit a crime.

>9. The FBI also investigated the terrorist who killed 49 people and
>wounded 53 more at the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, Fla. Despite a more
>than 10-month investigation of Omar Mateen -- during which Mateen
>admitting lying to agents -- the FBI opted against pressing further and
>closed its case.

Because they couldn't find anything that would hold up in court. This
is the advantage of the lone wolf. He can keep his own counsel and
act at his own discretion with complete surprise.

>10. CBS recently reported that when two terrorists sought to kill
>Americans attending the "Draw Muhammad" event in Garland, Texas, the FBI
>not only had an understanding an attack was coming, but actually had an
>undercover agent traveling with the Islamists, Elton Simpson and Nadir
>Soofi. The FBI has refused to comment on why the agent on the scene did
>not intervene during the attack.

But aren't you guys the ones who most often complain about leaks? In
such a case as the above, the informant, if he'd intervened, would
never be useful as a Muslim infiltrator/informant again. Wasn't it
Patton who said that to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs?
In any case, the two gunmen were killed, a security guard was shot and
there were no other casualties. No need for the informant to
intervene. The cops took care of it.

>11. The bureau "dropped the ball" after they were alerted that someone
>with the user name Nikolas Cruz posted on social media that he aspired to
>be "a professional school shooter," according to a former member of the
>FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Forces.

Again, do you really believe the FBI has the resources to track down
every tip and/or interview the author of every crackpot post on the
internet?

So, let's dwell on their every mistake and completely ignore any of
their successes because you like the guy in the White House whose
criminal associates they're investigating.

Swill
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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 00:52:30 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> >Fucking bullshit. "We've" blasted the FBI for what they've truly done...
> >no one made the shit up that THEY did. That does NOT preclude "us" from
> >using their statistics, you 98lb. weakling basement dweller.
>
> Comey isn't at the FBI anymore.

Uhhh... he's not immune from anything, JUST because he's no longer there.
If it's found out that he "colluded" with Lynch, Obama or any other
political figure, to excuse what Hillary Clinton did that was criminal,
he's JUST as eligible for prosecution as anyone.

> So why are you picking on him?

Read my post again... I listed him only, as a matter of brevity, and I
said "MAINLY Comey", meaning there ARE more. He's probably the one with
the most egregious behaviour out of these: Rosenstein, McCabe and Yates,
and THEY aren't out of the woods yet either.

Knowing Washington politics, they'll get the brother-in-law treatment.

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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 00:55:50 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> >The acts the FBI HIERARCHY has done politically, NEEDED to be addressed.
> >No one is impugning the rank and file at the FBI...
>
> Sure you are.

Surely, I'm not. Did I list ANYONE, not named Comey, McCabe or Yates? What
did I say that impugned the rank and file?

List it here: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

> They're the ones doing the actual work.

But they're not the ones doing the actual "criminal work", and the buck
doesn't stop where THEY are.
AlleyCat
2018-02-24 00:57:11 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> The FBI under Comey isn't acting any differently than it has under any
> other director.

"Isn't"?

Uhhh, to quote YOU: "Comey isn't at the FBI anymore."


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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 01:01:51 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> Why
> not go all the way back to J Edgar who routinely did warrantless
> surveillance on American citizens.

Because we're not TALKING about J. Edgar Hoover. We're talking about Comey
and HIS tenure with the FBI.

Please... you seem reasonable... don't start acting all liberal, trying to
introduce "other" people or whatever else someone did, as to draw
attention away from what the topic is about... Comey and HIS FBI.

I'll stay on topic, if you do, but I won't be swayed into going somewhere
else, like going after Hoover. To paraphrase what you said about Comey:
"Hoover isn't AT the FBI anymore, and I'm pretty sure he's dead."

:-)

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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 01:09:43 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> >1. After Dylann Roof killed nine South Carolina parishioners in cold
> >blood, James Comey admitted that an error in their background check system
> >allowed Roof to legally buy his gun. "We are all sick this happened,"
> >Comey said of the massive screw-up.
>
> "Mistakes were made." - George Bush on the justification for invading
> Iraq He killed a lot more Americans than Roof ever dreamed of.

Ahhhh... so, Bush went to Iraq and fought... how interesting. Did he carry
an assault rifle? So, by THAT logic, Obama killed more than Roof too...
right?

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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 01:12:13 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> >4. Comey made an embarrassing gaffe during a speech at the Holocaust
> >Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. in 2015,
>
> Ok. Hold up. Comey made "a" gaffe three years ago? Trump makes
> several gaffes a day. Hell, Joe Biden makes more gaffes than one
> every three years.
>

So, everything is excused because someone else did it too?

What about the people who have gone to jail for MUCH less egregious
"criminal" handling of classified material, yet Clinton goes free?

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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 01:27:34 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> >7. During its investigation into Hillary Clinton's mishandling of
> >classified material, the FBI made an unusual deal in which Clinton aides
> >were both given immunity and allowed to destroy their laptops.
>
> And your proof of this better be more than something you read on the
> internet somewhere.

Ohhh... I'm supposed to have first-hand knowledge, huh? Where do YOU get
YOUR information? Is it first-hand?

Anyways, take yer pick.

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1
&ei=fYWPWrrMH9D7zgLupaBo&q=clinton+aides+destroyed+laptops&oq=clinton+aide
s+destroyed+laptops&gs_l=psy-
ab.3...325612.338823.0.339613.31.31.0.0.0.0.138.2894.17j12.29.0....0...1.1
.64.psy-
ab..2.18.1983...0j46j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i46i67k1j46i67k1j0i67k1j0i20i264i46k
1j46i20i264k1j0i20i264k1j0i46k1j0i10k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1.0.aQk9WR
X-PHM

https://tinyurl.com/Clinton-Aides-Destroy-Devices

Here's the problem with you liberals pissing and moaning about "sources"
coming ONLY from conservative or right-leaning websites... the left WON'T
report these things, lest it make anyone ON the left look bad.

Lying by omission, is what I call it. CNN REFUSES to believe things that
are true. Watch... you might even laugh at this dumb ass cunt news network
babe.

This is so fucking funny.

=====

Watch CNN Anchor's Disbelief That Clinton Aides Destroyed Phones With
Hammer -- By Caitlin Yilek - 09/04/16 05:16 PM EDT


CNN anchor Brooke Baldwin was in disbelief when she learned that Hillary
Clinton's aides destroyed her phones with a hammer.

When Boris Epshteyn, an adviser to Donald Trump, told her on air that the
Democratic nominee's aides destroyed her BlackBerries with hammers,
Baldwin interrupted him to ask a reporter to fact-check that statement.

"Evan, hold on, can you fact-check?" Baldwin asked reporter Evan Perez on
"CNN Newsroom" on Friday. "Evan Perez? Hammers? Fact-check that for me, on
the fly."

"Yes they did, Brooke." Perez responded. "As he mentioned, there were 13
mobile devices and 5 iPads that the FBI said that in some way were used
with her private email server, and they did in some cases just destroy
them with hammers when they were done using them."

https://youtu.be/TwiMjLX_ABQ

The FBI on Friday released a detailed report on its investigation into
Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of State.

The report included notes on the agency's three-hour interview with
Clinton.

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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 01:30:15 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> In America, it's very difficult to jail anybody because they *might*
> commit a crime.

True, but they COULD have investigated further and found out through
either surveillance or a physical inspection of where Tamerlan and his
brother LIVED, that they could have stopped the Boston bombing.

Boston strong.

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AlleyCat
2018-02-24 01:37:56 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:27:06 -0500, Governor Swill says...

> Again, do you really believe the FBI has the resources to track down
> every tip and/or interview

That's what they're PAID to do!

> the author of every crackpot post on the
> internet?

It was a very specific "fantasy" written about. How many people do YOU
know, blow off a little steam by saying they WANT to become a professional
"school shooter"?

I've NEVER seen that... not even when it was seen by others.

What was it Obama said? Oh yeah... "If you SEE something, SAY something."

https://youtu.be/JQinRBd_IQs?t=113

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIdwtr9oylg

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Byker
2018-03-09 01:03:28 UTC
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On 2/20/2018 11:19 AM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>
> According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America

Britain thinks it has solved that problem by banning knives altogether:

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

https://www.gov.uk/contact-police

I wonder what British tourists think when they see these late-night
infomercials:

183 knives for $220: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BbEmAYW0NU

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj3dt20MAZcvDN8GKeT2FBg

I wonder what the penalty is for smuggling "illegal knives"?

Eat your hearts out, Eurosheep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd7Lubqd7Ao

Henry Rifles, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12myaOs3WeQ

I think I'll stay on my side of pond if it's all right with you...
Greg Carr
2018-03-09 04:06:32 UTC
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On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 5:03:35 PM UTC-8, Byker wrote:
> On 2/20/2018 11:19 AM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> >
> > According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America
>
> Britain thinks it has solved that problem by banning knives altogether:
>
> https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
>
> https://www.gov.uk/contact-police
>
> I wonder what British tourists think when they see these late-night
> infomercials:
>
> 183 knives for $220: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BbEmAYW0NU
>
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj3dt20MAZcvDN8GKeT2FBg
>
> I wonder what the penalty is for smuggling "illegal knives"?
>
> Eat your hearts out, Eurosheep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd7Lubqd7Ao
>
> Henry Rifles, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12myaOs3WeQ
>
> I think I'll stay on my side of pond if it's all right with you...

I saw a case recently in Saskatchewan where a HAMC full patch was busted for having brass knuckles. He was only fined $530. There is no legitimate reason for having knuckle dusters so why don't we throw those organized crime guys who carry them in prison.
Byker
2018-03-09 20:25:18 UTC
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>
> I saw a case recently in Saskatchewan where a HAMC full patch was busted
> for having brass knuckles. He was only fined $530. There is no legitimate
> reason for having knuckle dusters so why don't we throw those organized
> crime guys who carry them in prison.

As a kid I used to carry a large lead fishing sinker. Concealed in my fist,
it made a good force-multiplier ;-)
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