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Robin Williams' Life And Death Confirm Exististential, Pessimistic And Nihilistic View Of Life And The Universe
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Democritus
2014-08-12 23:06:06 UTC
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By committing suicide (if that is what happened) Robin Williams has made a statement about the suffering and futility of life.
He has confirmed Albert Camus' view that "It is common knowledge that life is not worth living". Even before his tragic end
the very successful and wealthy Williams expressed his death wish in becoming addicted to hard drugs. Taking hard drugs or committing suicide are decisions
made by people who are saying to themselves, "Stop the world, I want to get off", which was, I believe, a popular song of the
sixties or seventies.

It would have been helpful if Williams had left a note as the late Hollywood actor George Sanders did in the seventies when
he committed suicide in a Barcelona Spain hotel room from a drug over-dose. The note reading: "I have lived long enough and I am bored",
again confirmed a justified dissillusionment with all society, all religious crap and untruths, and life itself in an evil universe.

Of course existentialists have long maintained that boredom makes up a large part of life's suffering. As French writer Guy de Maupassant
wrote in the early 19th century, "La vie est ennui".

There are now rumors that Robin Williams was homosexual and was murdered by a deranged lover. If so, I still makes no difference
to what I have written above.
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David Johnston
2014-08-13 00:34:17 UTC
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Post by Democritus
By committing suicide (if that is what happened) Robin Williams has made a statement about the suffering and futility of life.
He has confirmed Albert Camus' view that "It is common knowledge that life is not worth living". Even before his tragic end
the very successful and wealthy Williams expressed his death wish in becoming addicted to hard drugs.
Don't be an idiot. He wasn't very successful and wealthy when he became
addicted to drugs.
Dhu on Gate
2014-08-13 03:28:52 UTC
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Post by Democritus
By committing suicide (if that is what happened) Robin Williams has
made a statement about the suffering and futility of life.
Post by Democritus
He has confirmed Albert Camus' view that "It is common knowledge that
life is not worth living". Even before his tragic end
Post by Democritus
the very successful and wealthy Williams expressed his death wish in
becoming addicted to hard drugs. Taking hard drugs or committing suicide
are decisions
Post by Democritus
made by people who are saying to themselves, "Stop the world, I want to
get off", which was, I believe, a popular song of the
Post by Democritus
sixties or seventies.
It would have been helpful if Williams had left a note as the late
Hollywood actor George Sanders did in the seventies when
Post by Democritus
he committed suicide in a Barcelona Spain hotel room from a drug over-
dose. The note reading: "I have lived long enough and I am bored",
Post by Democritus
again confirmed a justified dissillusionment with all society, all
religious crap and untruths, and life itself in an evil universe.
Post by Democritus
Of course existentialists have long maintained that boredom makes up a
large part of life's suffering. As French writer Guy de Maupassant
Post by Democritus
wrote in the early 19th century, "La vie est ennui".
There are now rumors that Robin Williams was homosexual and was
murdered by a deranged lover. If so, I still makes no difference
Post by Democritus
to what I have written above.
He died of "asphyxiation".

The Problem for humans is that we're a species designed to battle floods,
hurricanes exploding mountains and burning rocks falling from the sky.
It is when all shit is breaking loose that we *really are* at our best.
Rest of the time we sit around like a bunch of monkeys in a cage, jacking
off and casually flinging shit on each other and any observers.

Dhu
Clyde Armstrong
2014-08-13 16:16:05 UTC
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Post by Democritus
Post by Democritus
By committing suicide (if that is what happened) Robin Williams has
made a statement about the suffering and futility of life.
Post by Democritus
He has confirmed Albert Camus' view that "It is common knowledge that
life is not worth living". Even before his tragic end
Post by Democritus
the very successful and wealthy Williams expressed his death wish in
becoming addicted to hard drugs. Taking hard drugs or committing suicide
are decisions
Post by Democritus
made by people who are saying to themselves, "Stop the world, I want to
get off", which was, I believe, a popular song of the
Post by Democritus
sixties or seventies.
It would have been helpful if Williams had left a note as the late
Hollywood actor George Sanders did in the seventies when
Post by Democritus
he committed suicide in a Barcelona Spain hotel room from a drug over-
dose. The note reading: "I have lived long enough and I am bored",
Post by Democritus
again confirmed a justified disillusionment with all society, all
religious crap and untruths, and life itself in an evil universe.
Post by Democritus
Of course existentialists have long maintained that boredom makes up a
large part of life's suffering. As French writer Guy de Maupassant
Post by Democritus
wrote in the early 19th century, "La vie est ennui".
There are now rumors that Robin Williams was homosexual and was
murdered by a deranged lover. If so, I still makes no difference
Post by Democritus
to what I have written above.
He died of "asphyxiation".
The Problem for humans is that we're a species designed to battle floods,
And how do you know this, fuckwit. Did you have a visitation from God or the
Absolute?

Y0ur follow up is irrelevant and completely inane. Are you unable to deal with
the content of my post?
Post by Democritus
hurricanes exploding mountains and burning rocks falling from the sky.
It is when all shit is breaking loose that we *really are* at our best.
Rest of the time we sit around like a bunch of monkeys in a cage, jacking
off and casually flinging shit on each other and any observers.
Dhu
Dhu on Gate
2014-08-14 00:13:50 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Post by Democritus
Post by Democritus
By committing suicide (if that is what happened) Robin Williams has
made a statement about the suffering and futility of life.
Post by Democritus
He has confirmed Albert Camus' view that "It is common knowledge that
life is not worth living". Even before his tragic end
Post by Democritus
the very successful and wealthy Williams expressed his death wish in
becoming addicted to hard drugs. Taking hard drugs or committing suicide
are decisions
Post by Democritus
made by people who are saying to themselves, "Stop the world, I want to
get off", which was, I believe, a popular song of the
Post by Democritus
sixties or seventies.
It would have been helpful if Williams had left a note as the late
Hollywood actor George Sanders did in the seventies when
Post by Democritus
he committed suicide in a Barcelona Spain hotel room from a drug over-
dose. The note reading: "I have lived long enough and I am bored",
Post by Democritus
again confirmed a justified disillusionment with all society, all
religious crap and untruths, and life itself in an evil universe.
Post by Democritus
Of course existentialists have long maintained that boredom makes up a
large part of life's suffering. As French writer Guy de Maupassant
Post by Democritus
wrote in the early 19th century, "La vie est ennui".
There are now rumors that Robin Williams was homosexual and was
murdered by a deranged lover. If so, I still makes no difference
Post by Democritus
to what I have written above.
He died of "asphyxiation".
The Problem for humans is that we're a species designed to battle floods,
And how do you know this, fuckwit. Did you have a visitation from God or
the Absolute?
Y0ur follow up is irrelevant and completely inane. Are you unable to
deal with the content of my post?
Clearly you are unable to deal with the content of mind.
Face it, your ears are too close together.

Dhu
Post by Clyde Armstrong
Post by Democritus
hurricanes exploding mountains and burning rocks falling from the sky.
It is when all shit is breaking loose that we *really are* at our best.
Rest of the time we sit around like a bunch of monkeys in a cage, jacking
off and casually flinging shit on each other and any observers.
Dhu
Dhu on Gate
2014-08-15 13:22:20 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Post by Democritus
Post by Democritus
By committing suicide (if that is what happened) Robin Williams has
made a statement about the suffering and futility of life.
Post by Democritus
He has confirmed Albert Camus' view that "It is common knowledge that
life is not worth living". Even before his tragic end
Post by Democritus
the very successful and wealthy Williams expressed his death wish in
becoming addicted to hard drugs. Taking hard drugs or committing suicide
are decisions
Post by Democritus
made by people who are saying to themselves, "Stop the world, I want to
get off", which was, I believe, a popular song of the
Post by Democritus
sixties or seventies.
It would have been helpful if Williams had left a note as the late
Hollywood actor George Sanders did in the seventies when
Post by Democritus
he committed suicide in a Barcelona Spain hotel room from a drug over-
dose. The note reading: "I have lived long enough and I am bored",
Post by Democritus
again confirmed a justified disillusionment with all society, all
religious crap and untruths, and life itself in an evil universe.
Post by Democritus
Of course existentialists have long maintained that boredom makes up a
large part of life's suffering. As French writer Guy de Maupassant
Post by Democritus
wrote in the early 19th century, "La vie est ennui".
There are now rumors that Robin Williams was homosexual and was
murdered by a deranged lover. If so, I still makes no difference
Post by Democritus
to what I have written above.
He died of "asphyxiation".
The Problem for humans is that we're a species designed to battle floods,
And how do you know this, fuckwit. Did you have a visitation from God or
the Absolute?
No. I do know we ain't the same, you an' me.

Gods don't talk to me about you an' yers.

And that's just fine with me.

Dhu
Post by Clyde Armstrong
Y0ur follow up is irrelevant and completely inane. Are you unable to
deal with the content of my post?
Post by Democritus
hurricanes exploding mountains and burning rocks falling from the sky.
It is when all shit is breaking loose that we *really are* at our best.
Rest of the time we sit around like a bunch of monkeys in a cage, jacking
off and casually flinging shit on each other and any observers.
Dhu
Clyde Armstrong
2014-08-13 16:10:58 UTC
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Post by Democritus
By committing suicide (if that is what happened) Robin Williams has made a statement about the suffering and futility of life.
He has confirmed Albert Camus' view that "It is common knowledge that life is not worth living". Even before his tragic end
the very successful and wealthy Williams expressed his death wish in becoming addicted to hard drugs. Taking hard drugs or committing suicide are decisions
made by people who are saying to themselves, "Stop the world, I want to get off", which was, I believe, a popular song of the
sixties or seventies.
It would have been helpful if Williams had left a note as the late Hollywood actor George Sanders did in the seventies when
he committed suicide in a Barcelona Spain hotel room from a drug over-dose. The note reading: "I have lived long enough and I am bored",
again confirmed a justified dissillusionment with all society, all religious crap and untruths, and life itself in an evil universe.
Of course existentialists have long maintained that boredom makes up a large part of life's suffering. As French writer Guy de Maupassant
wrote in the early 19th century, "La vie est ennui".
There are now rumors that Robin Williams was homosexual and was murdered by a deranged lover. If so, I still makes no difference
to what I have written above.
How do you know when he became addicted to drug?. In one on his early, very
successful movies "The Dead Poets' Society" he looks very young and healthy. He
could not have been a drug addict then. And he was already wealthy. Even in his
sordid death he left an estate of $50 million.
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David Johnston
2014-08-13 18:14:04 UTC
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Post by Democritus
How do you know when he became addicted to drug?. In one on his early, very
successful movies "The Dead Poets' Society" he looks very young and healthy. He
could not have been a drug addict then.
According to his public statements, his drug and alchohol abuse started
in the 70s. He was high all through Mork and Mindy and only stopped
after Jim Belushi's death threw a scare into him.
Clyde Armstrong
2014-08-13 23:13:15 UTC
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Post by Democritus
How do you know when he became addicted to drug?. In one on his early, very
successful movies "The Dead Poets' Society" he looks very young and healthy. He
could not have been a drug addict then.
According to his public statements, his drug and alchohol abuse started
in the 70s. He was high all through Mork and Mindy and only stopped
after Jim Belushi's death threw a scare into him.
All of this is irrelevant to the theme of my post. The drug addiction and suicide of Robin Williams is just another confirmation of existentialism--the belief that life is filled with suffering, has no meaning and that every birth just adds to and perpetuates the suffering. Man subsists on HOPE. In Samuel Beckett's play "Waiting for Godot" hope is personified in this mysterious person Godot. But he never comes and the suffering of the two clowns, Vladimir and Estragon continues. They represents mankind. We are all clowns and the universe is shit. "Life has no meaning and death is without significance".--
Somerset Maugham
(ಠ_ಠ)РаОса
2014-08-14 01:03:26 UTC
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All of this is irrelevant to the theme of my post. The drug addiction and suicide of Robin Williams is just another confirmation of existentialism--the belief that life is filled with suffering, has no meaning and that every birth just adds to and perpetuates the suffering. Man subsists on HOPE. In Samuel Beckett's play "Waiting for Godot" hope is personified in this mysterious person Godot. But he never comes and the suffering of the two clowns, Vladimir and Estragon continues. They represents mankind. We are all clowns and the universe is shit. "Life has no meaning and death is without significance".-- Somerset Maugham
I often wonder what you would ever have to post - from your own little
mind - if you didn't have a hundred other authors or sources to quote.
If life has no meaning to you, Lambourn, so be it. Some win, some lose.
You obviously took a turn to the loser side some time ago.
But what do you hope to accomplish by trying to convince everyone else
that 'life has no meaning', that 'we are all clowns' and that 'the
universe is shit'?

No one is going to buy that assessment of the world just because you're
so low in the abyss that only the rats know where you are. You need
psychological help - and you sure as hell aren't going to find it in
these newsgroups. Spend some of your 'last years money' to get a shrink.
Clyde Armstrong
2014-08-14 21:38:00 UTC
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All of this is irrelevant to the theme of my post. The drug addiction and suicide of Robin Williams is just another confirmation of existentialism--the belief that life is filled with suffering, has no meaning and that every birth just adds to and perpetuates the suffering. Man subsists on HOPE. In Samuel Beckett's play "Waiting for Godot" hope is personified in this mysterious person Godot. But he never comes and the suffering of the two clowns, Vladimir and Estragon continues. They represents mankind. We are all clowns and the universe is shit. "Life has no meaning and death is without significance".-- Somerset Maugham
I often wonder what you would ever have to post - from your own little
mind - if you didn't have a hundred other authors or sources to quote.
If life has no meaning to you, Lambourn, so be it. Some win, some lose.
You obviously took a turn to the loser side some time ago.
But what do you hope to accomplish by trying to convince everyone else
that 'life has no meaning', that 'we are all clowns' and that 'the
universe is shit'?
No one is going to buy that assessment of the world just because you're
so low in the abyss that only the rats know where you are. You need
psychological help - and you sure as hell aren't going to find it in
these newsgroups. Spend some of your 'last years money' to get a shrink.
Good for you, Karen. You have just made one of the best follow- ups to my posts on existentialism. But you seem to believe that I am alone
in my philosophical pessimism. However, I have never written anything more controversial than that of Beckett (who was a mathematician, philosopher and writer)awarded the Nobel Prize for literature in his own lifetime. He was original; I am not. But because my ontological beliefs are the same as his and other great scholars, you cannot dismiss me as crazy. Yes, my views are disturbing but they are supported by many great intellectuals and writers going back to Ancient Greece.
(ಠ_ಠ)РаОса
2014-08-14 22:56:53 UTC
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Good for you, Karen. You have just made one of the best follow- ups to my posts on existentialism. But you seem to believe that I am alone
in my philosophical pessimism. However, I have never written anything more controversial than that of Beckett (who was a mathematician, philosopher and writer)awarded the Nobel Prize for literature in his own lifetime. He was original; I am not. But because my ontological beliefs are the same as his and other great scholars, you cannot dismiss me as crazy. Yes, my views are disturbing but they are supported by many great intellectuals and writers going back to Ancient Greece.
Not 'Karen', but that really doesn't matter . . . . I need to ask you
this: What does it matter who, when or why anyone supports your dismal,
bleak, depressing views on life?
Why the hell would you think that anyone posting to a Canadian political
discussion group would want to hear those views?
Do you not know how to make your way to the philosophical discussion
groups - or the ones about death and dying - or the ones about 'I'm
depressed and I need to talk with others like me' groups?

You're spamming shit here, Lambourn. That isn't too bright - or rational.
Roy
2014-08-14 23:12:14 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Good for you, Karen. You have just made one of the best follow- ups to my posts on existentialism. But you seem to believe that I am alone
in my philosophical pessimism. However, I have never written anything more controversial than that of Beckett (who was a mathematician, philosopher and writer)awarded the Nobel Prize for literature in his own lifetime. He was original; I am not. But because my ontological beliefs are the same as his and other great scholars, you cannot dismiss me as crazy. Yes, my views are disturbing but they are supported by many great intellectuals and writers going back to Ancient Greece.
Not 'Karen', but that really doesn't matter . . . . I need to ask you
this: What does it matter who, when or why anyone supports your dismal,
bleak, depressing views on life?
Why the hell would you think that anyone posting to a Canadian political
discussion group would want to hear those views?
Do you not know how to make your way to the philosophical discussion
groups - or the ones about death and dying - or the ones about 'I'm
depressed and I need to talk with others like me' groups?
You're spamming shit here, Lambourn. That isn't too bright - or rational.
Excellent reply to the "Old Philosopher"...and I use the term loosely.
Clyde Armstrong
2014-08-15 01:11:26 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Good for you, Karen. You have just made one of the best follow- ups to my posts on existentialism. But you seem to believe that I am alone
in my philosophical pessimism. However, I have never written anything more controversial than that of Beckett (who was a mathematician, philosopher and writer)awarded the Nobel Prize for literature in his own lifetime. He was original; I am not. But because my ontological beliefs are the same as his and other great scholars, you cannot dismiss me as crazy. Yes, my views are disturbing but they are supported by many great intellectuals and writers going back to Ancient Greece.
Not 'Karen', but that really doesn't matter . . . . I need to ask you
this: What does it matter who, when or why anyone supports your dismal,
bleak, depressing views on life?
Politics is determined by ideology, religion,and philosophy. You begin a question with "What does it matter..." It doesn't matter. Nothing really matters, you fool. Matter does not exist. As a great philosopher once stated,
existence is in perception. "All that we see or seem to be/Is
but a dream within a dream".--Edgar Allan Poe.
Post by (ಠ_ಠ)РаОса
Why the hell would you think that anyone posting to a Canadian political
discussion group would want to hear those views?
Do you not know how to make your way to the philosophical discussion
groups - or the ones about death and dying - or the ones about 'I'm
depressed and I need to talk with others like me' groups?
You're spamming shit here, Lambourn. That isn't too bright - or rational.
(ಠ_ಠ)РаОса
2014-08-15 02:10:22 UTC
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Not 'Karen', but that really doesn't matter . . . . I need to ask you
this: What does it matter who, when or why anyone supports your dismal,
bleak, depressing views on life?
Politics is determined by ideology, religion,and philosophy. You begin a question with "What does it matter..." It doesn't matter. Nothing really matters, you fool. Matter does not exist. As a great philosopher once stated,
existence is in perception. "All that we see or seem to be/Is
but a dream within a dream".--Edgar Allan Poe.
If "it doesn't matter", then shut up about it. You're the fool,
Lambourn. And I think you're not mentally right.
If you insist on spreading your depression around, be ready to find some
opposition. Life is tough enough without your kind wasting space here.
Clyde Armstrong
2014-08-15 02:40:40 UTC
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Not 'Karen', but that really doesn't matter . . . . I need to ask you
this: What does it matter who, when or why anyone supports your dismal,
bleak, depressing views on life?
Politics is determined by ideology, religion,and philosophy. You begin a question with "What does it matter..." It doesn't matter. Nothing really matters, you fool. Matter does not exist. As a great philosopher once stated,
existence is in perception. "All that we see or seem to be/Is
but a dream within a dream".--Edgar Allan Poe.
If "it doesn't matter", then shut up about it. You're the fool,
Lambourn. And I think you're not mentally right.
If you insist on spreading your depression around, be ready to find some
opposition. Life is tough enough without your kind wasting space here.
Whoops, I think I see a convert who sees life as tough. Well, you ain't seen
nothing, yet, Fuckwit. Remember what Hemingway wrote before he committed suicide, "Life is game in which everyone eventually gets picked off base".
M.I.Wakefield
2014-08-15 03:14:19 UTC
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Whoops, I think I see a convert who sees life as tough. Well, you ain't seen
nothing, yet, Fuckwit. Remember what Hemingway wrote before he committed
suicide, "Life is game in which everyone eventually gets picked off base".
Life is like most of the people you meet: nasty, brutish, and short.
(ಠ_ಠ)РаОса
2014-08-15 19:24:55 UTC
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Life is like most of the people you meet: nasty, brutish, and short.
“A pessimist is a man who thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and
hates them for it.”
― George Bernard Shaw
(ಠ_ಠ)РаОса
2014-08-15 19:24:26 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Whoops, I think I see a convert who sees life as tough. Well, you ain't seen
nothing, yet, Fuckwit. Remember what Hemingway wrote before he committed suicide, "Life is game in which everyone eventually gets picked off base".
“A pessimist is a man who thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and
hates them for it.”
― George Bernard Shaw
Clyde Armstrong
2014-08-16 15:22:31 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Whoops, I think I see a convert who sees life as tough. Well, you ain't seen
nothing, yet, Fuckwit. Remember what Hemingway wrote before he committed suicide, "Life is game in which everyone eventually gets picked off base".
“A pessimist is a man who thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and
hates them for it.”
― George Bernard Shaw
Shaw was a socialist and progressive, an early admirer of Lenin, Stalin and
Hitler.
Eric©
2014-08-16 16:03:35 UTC
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Clyde Armstrong wrote...
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Whoops, I think I see a convert who sees life as tough. Well, you ain't seen
nothing, yet, Fuckwit. Remember what Hemingway wrote before he committed suicide, "Life is game in which everyone eventually gets picked off base".
?A pessimist is a man who thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and
hates them for it.?
? George Bernard Shaw
Shaw was a socialist and progressive, an early admirer of Lenin, Stalin and
Hitler.
Was Shaw anticipating 'Gordon' in that quotation?

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