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tRUMP's Monumental Deception Unravels Like A Confidentiality Agreement
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AlleyCat
2018-04-04 00:00:36 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill says...
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/381374-trumps-monumental-deception-unravels
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.

Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?

We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".

[giggle]
--
Climate Hillbilly Davis

It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."

Alan Baker
2018-04-04 00:31:16 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill says...
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/381374-trumps-monumental-deception-unravels
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?
We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".
[giggle]
Look up "ad hominem"...
AlleyCat
2018-04-04 00:48:13 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:31:16 -0700, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill says...
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/381374-trumps-monumental-deception-unravels
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?
We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".
[giggle]
Look up "ad hominem"...
Don't have to... that's all liberals use and have, when they're losing an
argument.

The epitome of ad hominem?

"Fuck off, you're too fucked-up stupid for this discussion."

Ad hominem to stop discussion, because liberal was LOSING it.

"Fuckhead: *FIX* your fucking computer clock. You're posting a day into
the future, Fuckhead."

LOL... worried about my clock, instead of what was being discussed.

"No, fuckhead. Quinnipiac. You know, one of the top independent
pollsters. Fuck, you're one stupid fuckhead."

"You're an unemployable denizen of your mother's spare room. When was the
last time you paid any taxes at all?"

"You aren't engaging in "creative writing", homo hummel, you
squishy stinky queer. You're just illiterate, and *that* is *THAT*."

"You're a silly goose, J. Ball!"

"You're a moron, Kitty. "

"You're ranting."

"Because you're probably not clued in enough to realize it."

"Only the rich get richer off the rich. Fuck goddammit you're fucked-up
stupid."

"God, you're such a fucking dumbass."

"Collusion, and worse - lots of it. You know this. That's why you're so
frightened."

"You're not laughing. You're stamping your little foot in impotent rage.
We can smell your frustration."

"*We* are right about you. You're stamping your little foot in impotent
rage, and it's funny."

"But we've seen so much of your crap, we know we're not missing anything
when it's deleted unread."

"It's more that you're sad, boring, and predictable."

LOL... I could go on all night, but then, *I* have a life... YOU (insert
ad hominem here). ;-)
Alan Baker
2018-04-04 00:57:57 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:31:16 -0700, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill says...
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/381374-trumps-monumental-deception-unravels
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?
We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".
[giggle]
Look up "ad hominem"...
Don't have to... that's all liberals use and have, when they're losing an
argument.
So then since you used an ad hominem rather than factual argument, you
admit you're losing.
AlleyCat
2018-04-04 01:14:08 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:57:57 -0700, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:31:16 -0700, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill says...
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/381374-trumps-monumental-deception-unravels
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?
We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".
[giggle]
Look up "ad hominem"...
Don't have to... that's all liberals use and have, when they're losing an
argument.
So then since you used an ad hominem rather than factual argument, you
admit you're losing.
What exactly am I losing? An imaginary discussion with someone I've never
even met or talked with?

I was being general in what I was saying... I wasn't attacking any one
person, hence the "he/she".

I was commenting on the DISCLAIMER, not the author.

By saying that I'm doing something that I'm not, it is YOU who is
employing an ad hominem here. ;-)

Capisce?
Alan Baker
2018-04-04 02:04:49 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:57:57 -0700, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:31:16 -0700, Alan Baker says...
Post by Alan Baker
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill says...
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/381374-trumps-monumental-deception-unravels
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?
We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".
[giggle]
Look up "ad hominem"...
Don't have to... that's all liberals use and have, when they're losing an
argument.
So then since you used an ad hominem rather than factual argument, you
admit you're losing.
What exactly am I losing? An imaginary discussion with someone I've never
even met or talked with?
You attacked the author of an article rather than deal with what the
article said.
Post by AlleyCat
I was being general in what I was saying... I wasn't attacking any one
person, hence the "he/she".
I was commenting on the DISCLAIMER, not the author.
No. You were stating that the disclaimer said something material about
the author.
Post by AlleyCat
By saying that I'm doing something that I'm not, it is YOU who is
employing an ad hominem here. ;-)
Nope.

1. You are doing what I said you are.

2. That doesn't match the definition.
Post by AlleyCat
Capisce?
I do.

You... ...don't.
AlleyCat
2018-04-04 03:18:15 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:04:49 -0700, Alan Baker says...
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Post by AlleyCat
What exactly am I losing? An imaginary discussion with someone I've never
even met or talked with?
You attacked the author of an article rather than deal with what the
article said.
Nope. I said that TheHill "thinks"... NOT a direct attack... not an ad
hominem.

"Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"..."

NOTHING was said TO the person... only what someone ELSE MIGHT think of
that person. Unlike you liberals, who read minds... I don't.

"... short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative
strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by
instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person
making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than
attacking the substance of the argument itself."

There was NO argument... NO discussion, and *I* didn't call him/her, an
idiot. I merely stated that I thought that someone ELSE might think of
someone else as an idiot. :p

NOT an ad hominem.

I stated what I thought someone ELSE thinks of someone, because they used
a disclaimer. Why use a disclaimer, if you think that what someone is
writing, is good on it's own WITHOUT the disclaimer?

I didn't call the author a name... I stated what I thought TheHill might
think.

THAT'S not an ad hominem attack. If *I* said the author was an idiot, THEN
an ad hominem would have occurred.

If *I* stated that I thought that YOU thought President Trump was/is an
idiot for saying something YOU didn't agree with, would *I* be calling him
an idiot, hence employing an ad hominem, as if *I* was attacking Trump
myself and calling him an idiot by proxy?

Nope.

You lose.

If you followed that line of "logic", you have my admiration. ;-)
AlleyCat
2018-04-04 23:28:31 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 15:10:48 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill says...
Recall how wrong Bret's previous prediction was about Hillary.
Hillary won the popular vote
Yeah... the malcontent and dregs of society vote. Does it warm your heart
to know that you're in the same party as Blacks in Chicago, Mexicans in
California and all the other dregs of society?

Yeah, she may have won the dregs of society, the takers not makers, and
the freeloader vote, the White trash, Blacks and Mexicans who voted fo mo
welfare and other free shit, but she dint win no election.

Too bad THOSE voters doesn't count anymore. LOL

That's OK... we all know Trump won the popular vote that counts; White,
heterosexual, middle American Blacks who don't suck the teat of government
to live, and Clinton won the dregs of society vote... you know, the ones
who voted for Obama THEN Clinton and were expecting their welfare to
continue unabated so THEY could buy their drugs and alcohol at the corner
bodega with more Obamabucks.

http://tinypic.com/r/a1ihrt/8

Democrats... showing up to get their Obama-bucks, "then take it home and
just get stoned to the bejesus belt that night on (the) stuff."

Bonus points if you recognize the quote.

I DO hope you're proud to be a Democrat these days.

Proud of the lies and mistruths and deception that Democrats tell and
proud of what HAS become of the Democrat Party. They are no longer the
compassionate libertarians they used to be.

They're more like Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev, than Kennedy.

=====

Democrats Have Replaced Their Old Base With Immigrants
Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date November 9, 2017

On the impact of incoming Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam's victory on
Tuesday and the 'Latino Victory Fund' ad showing a Republican truck driver
running down immigrant children that was not denounced.

"More than 50 years after Ted Kennedy's immigration act, it's no longer
even necessary for Democrats to win native-born, middle-class Americans
who work in the private sector, so they stopped trying," said Wednesday
night.

"Virginia has transformed politically because it has been transformed
demographically. For example, in 1970, 1% of that state was born outside
the United States. Today that number is 12%; 12% of Virginia is foreign-
born.

That has made all the difference. So if you are wondering why if the idea
of national borders is suddenly so unpopular among Democratic
officeholders, if you're wondering why the deadly plague of opiate
addiction in middle America causes barely a stir in Washington, now you
know the answer."

"They are not their base anymore, they've replaced you."

"You shouldn't get too apocalyptic about any one election result, although
today marks the one-year anniversary of what pretty much is beyond a doubt
the most remarkable election result in the past 40 years. Turned out to be
a humbling event for the press, which went into the race absolutely
certain believing Hillary Clinton could not lose."

[giggle]
--
Climate Hillbilly Davis

It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."
http://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI
AlleyCat
2018-04-05 04:47:25 UTC
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What... no witty or clever rebuttal? Nope... Brettainey too ashamed to be
called a Democrat these days.


Yeah... the malcontent and dregs of society vote. Does it warm your heart
to know that you're in the same party as Blacks in Chicago, Mexicans in
California and all the other dregs of society?

Yeah, she may have won the dregs of society, the takers not makers, and
the freeloader vote, the White trash, Blacks and Mexicans who voted fo mo
welfare and other free shit, but she dint win no election.

Too bad THOSE voters doesn't count anymore. LOL

That's OK... we all know Trump won the popular vote that counts; White,
heterosexual, middle American Blacks who don't suck the teat of government
to live, and Clinton won the dregs of society vote... you know, the ones
who voted for Obama THEN Clinton and were expecting their welfare to
continue unabated so THEY could buy their drugs and alcohol at the corner
bodega with more Obamabucks.

http://tinypic.com/r/a1ihrt/8

Democrats... showing up to get their Obama-bucks, "then take it home and
just get stoned to the bejesus belt that night on (the) stuff."

Bonus points if you recognize the quote.

I DO hope you're proud to be a Democrat these days.

Proud of the lies and mistruths and deception that Democrats tell and
proud of what HAS become of the Democrat Party. They are no longer the
compassionate libertarians they used to be.

They're more like Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev, than Kennedy.

=====

Democrats Have Replaced Their Old Base With Immigrants
Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date November 9, 2017

On the impact of incoming Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam's victory on
Tuesday and the 'Latino Victory Fund' ad showing a Republican truck driver
running down immigrant children that was not denounced.

"More than 50 years after Ted Kennedy's immigration act, it's no longer
even necessary for Democrats to win native-born, middle-class Americans
who work in the private sector, so they stopped trying," said Wednesday
night.

"Virginia has transformed politically because it has been transformed
demographically. For example, in 1970, 1% of that state was born outside
the United States. Today that number is 12%; 12% of Virginia is foreign-
born.

That has made all the difference. So if you are wondering why if the idea
of national borders is suddenly so unpopular among Democratic
officeholders, if you're wondering why the deadly plague of opiate
addiction in middle America causes barely a stir in Washington, now you
know the answer."

"They are not their base anymore, they've replaced you."

"You shouldn't get too apocalyptic about any one election result, although
today marks the one-year anniversary of what pretty much is beyond a doubt
the most remarkable election result in the past 40 years. Turned out to be
a humbling event for the press, which went into the race absolutely
certain believing Hillary Clinton could not lose."

[giggle]
--
Climate Hillbilly Davis

It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."
http://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI
super70s
2018-04-04 00:46:00 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth.
It means no such thing.
Post by AlleyCat
Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your website?
The same type of disclaimer is present on just about every DVD/Blu-ray
you buy these days that includes a commentary track, I don't know why
you think it's so unique unless you don't get around that much.
AlleyCat
2018-04-04 00:51:33 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:46:00 -0500, super70s says...
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Post by AlleyCat
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth.
It means no such thing.
Post by AlleyCat
Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your website?
The same type of disclaimer is present on just about every DVD/Blu-ray
you buy these days that includes a commentary track, I don't know why
you think it's so unique unless you don't get around that much.
I didn't say it was "unique".

Did I SAY it was unique?

I didn't say it was "unique".

It means, in case the writer is wrong, or says something that could lead
to litigation...

It means the website doesn't have faith in it enough to NOT post a
disclaimer.

*I* say you're an idiot... no disclaimer needed. [giggle] :-p
super70s
2018-04-04 20:34:26 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:46:00 -0500, super70s says...
Post by super70s
Post by AlleyCat
Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own
and not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth.
It means no such thing.
Post by AlleyCat
Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your website?
The same type of disclaimer is present on just about every DVD/Blu-ray
you buy these days that includes a commentary track, I don't know why
you think it's so unique unless you don't get around that much.
I didn't say it was "unique".
Did I SAY it was unique?
I didn't say it was "unique".
You implied a disclaimer was something out of the ordinary and took the
huge illogical jump that a disclaimer automatically means the website
"thinks the writer is an idiot." Backpedal away if you like.
Post by AlleyCat
It means, in case the writer is wrong, or says something that could lead
to litigation...
It means the website doesn't have faith in it enough to NOT post a
disclaimer.
Ever take the time to see if other websites also post disclaimers as a
matter of policy?
Post by AlleyCat
*I* say you're an idiot... no disclaimer needed. [giggle] :-p
Don't get mad at me because you obviously don't know what the hell
you're talking about.
AlleyCat
2018-04-04 22:12:15 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:34:26 -0500, super70s says...
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Post by AlleyCat
I didn't say it was "unique".
You implied
AHNNNNG... WRONG.

Typical liberal... ALWAYS knows what other people are thinking. I'm sure
that talent could be well used in Washington. Why aren't you THERE?
Post by super70s
a disclaimer was something out of the ordinary
Did I SAY that a disclaimer was "was something out of the ordinary".

I didn't say that a disclaimer "was something out of the ordinary".

Did I SAY that a disclaimer "was something out of the ordinary".
Post by super70s
and took the
huge illogical jump that a disclaimer automatically means the website
"thinks the writer is an idiot."
Did I SAY that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.

I didn't say that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.

Did I SAY that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.
Post by super70s
Backpedal away if you like.
No back-pedaling necessary, but I DO like it. We used to ride our bikes
like that... sit on the handlebars and pedal backwards... good times.

Of course, being the fat little shut-in that YOU probably are... you
probably NEVER went outside and rode bikes with friends, A) because you'd
rather sit inside and play games all day and night, and B) YOU... friends?
Post by super70s
Post by AlleyCat
It means, in case the writer is wrong, or says something that could lead
to litigation...
It means the website doesn't have faith in it enough to NOT post a
disclaimer.
Ever take the time to see if other websites also post disclaimers as a
matter of policy?
That is not the topic. THIS particular website used a disclaimer.
Disclaimers all mean the same thing... the website doesn't want the onus
on IT. They don't want to be the ones sued or criticized if the article is
full of mistruths, lies or slanderous material. Period.

I don't CARE what "other" websites use... I addressed TheHill's, and THAT
is all that should concern me, or even YOU... OTHER websites haven't been
introduced into evidence.
Post by super70s
Post by AlleyCat
*I* say you're an idiot... no disclaimer needed. [giggle] :-p
Don't get mad at me because you obviously don't know what the hell
you're talking about.
I wrote the article, moron... I KNOW what I'm talking about, because I'M
the one talking about it. It is YOU who doesn't know what I'm talking
about... obviously.

Why are you liberals so fucking pedantic?

--

It's "weather" when the temperatures don't agree with what climate
screechers have to say, and then it's climate change, when it does.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."
http://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI
Alan Baker
2018-04-04 22:20:13 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:34:26 -0500, super70s says...
Post by super70s
Post by AlleyCat
I didn't say it was "unique".
You implied
AHNNNNG... WRONG.
Typical liberal... ALWAYS knows what other people are thinking. I'm sure
that talent could be well used in Washington. Why aren't you THERE?
Post by super70s
a disclaimer was something out of the ordinary
Did I SAY that a disclaimer was "was something out of the ordinary".
I didn't say that a disclaimer "was something out of the ordinary".
Did I SAY that a disclaimer "was something out of the ordinary".
Post by super70s
and took the
huge illogical jump that a disclaimer automatically means the website
"thinks the writer is an idiot."
Did I SAY that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.
I didn't say that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.
Yeah... ...you really did. That's why WHAT you said is suddenly gone
from your reply:

"Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot"
Post by AlleyCat
Did I SAY that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.
Yup:

"Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot"
Post by AlleyCat
Post by super70s
Backpedal away if you like.
No back-pedaling necessary, but I DO like it. We used to ride our bikes
like that... sit on the handlebars and pedal backwards... good times.
Of course, being the fat little shut-in that YOU probably are... you
probably NEVER went outside and rode bikes with friends, A) because you'd
rather sit inside and play games all day and night, and B) YOU... friends?
Post by super70s
Post by AlleyCat
It means, in case the writer is wrong, or says something that could lead
to litigation...
It means the website doesn't have faith in it enough to NOT post a
disclaimer.
Ever take the time to see if other websites also post disclaimers as a
matter of policy?
That is not the topic. THIS particular website used a disclaimer.
Disclaimers all mean the same thing... the website doesn't want the onus
on IT. They don't want to be the ones sued or criticized if the article is
full of mistruths, lies or slanderous material. Period.
I don't CARE what "other" websites use... I addressed TheHill's, and THAT
is all that should concern me, or even YOU... OTHER websites haven't been
introduced into evidence.
Post by super70s
Post by AlleyCat
*I* say you're an idiot... no disclaimer needed. [giggle] :-p
Don't get mad at me because you obviously don't know what the hell
you're talking about.
I wrote the article, moron... I KNOW what I'm talking about, because I'M
the one talking about it. It is YOU who doesn't know what I'm talking
about... obviously.
No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.

You only wrote about the author of the article.
Skeeter
2018-04-04 22:23:01 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
Alan Baker
2018-04-04 22:27:23 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...

...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
Skeeter
2018-04-04 22:38:06 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
Alan Baker
2018-04-04 22:45:45 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
Skeeter
2018-04-04 23:29:28 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
I noticed that about you libs. When things don't go your way you whine
and stomp your feets.
Alan Baker
2018-04-04 23:38:23 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
I noticed that about you libs. When things don't go your way you whine
and stomp your feets.
I'm noting the obvious.

Literally nothing that is happening in the US wasn't already happening
during the previous administration.

That's a fact.
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2018-04-04 23:56:41 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
I noticed that about you libs. When things don't go your way you whine
and stomp your feets.
I'm noting the obvious.
Literally nothing that is happening in the US wasn't already happening
during the previous administration.
That's a fact.
And?

<taps fingers>
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2018-04-05 00:01:14 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
I noticed that about you libs. When things don't go your way you whine
and stomp your feets.
I'm noting the obvious.
Literally nothing that is happening in the US wasn't already happening
during the previous administration.
That's a fact.
And?
<taps fingers>
What more needs to be said?
Skeeter
2018-04-05 01:04:38 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
I noticed that about you libs. When things don't go your way you whine
and stomp your feets.
I'm noting the obvious.
Literally nothing that is happening in the US wasn't already happening
during the previous administration.
That's a fact.
And?
<taps fingers>
What more needs to be said?
Nothing has been said so far.
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2018-04-05 01:24:44 UTC
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
I noticed that about you libs. When things don't go your way you whine
and stomp your feets.
I'm noting the obvious.
Literally nothing that is happening in the US wasn't already happening
during the previous administration.
That's a fact.
And?
<taps fingers>
What more needs to be said?
Nothing has been said so far.
You're right.

Neither of you has pointed out anything that Trump has done.
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2018-04-05 00:02:03 UTC
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Literally nothing that is happening in the US wasn't already happening
during the previous administration.
You mean the corruption (IRS, DOJ, CIA, etc.), Russian collusion (proven)
and lies (If you like your doctor...)?

Sorry... no.

There's only ONE thing you whiners thought made America "greater", during
the Obama administration... healthcare for the dregs of society, so they'd
vote Democrat fo a hunnerd yeahs mo. - Lyndon Johnson

He got them "Niggers votin' Democrat" with free shit, an nothin's changed.

The problem with THAT? YOU were forced to pay for something and things
you'd NEVER use, like MATERNITY COVERAGE for MEN.

You LIKE being in the same party as the murderers in Chicago... the
gangbangers in MS.13... the dreg's of society as a whole?

Fine... we like being in the party that DOESN'T have those people in it.

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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:38:23 -0700, Alan Baker says...
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Literally nothing that is happening in the US wasn't already happening
during the previous administration.
You mean the corruption (IRS, DOJ, CIA, etc.), Russian collusion (proven)
and lies (If you like your doctor...)?
Sorry... no.
There's only ONE thing you whiners thought made America "greater", during
the Obama administration... healthcare for the dregs of society, so they'd
vote Democrat fo a hunnerd yeahs mo. - Lyndon Johnson
He got them "Niggers votin' Democrat" with free shit, an nothin's changed.
The problem with THAT? YOU were forced to pay for something and things
you'd NEVER use, like MATERNITY COVERAGE for MEN.
You LIKE being in the same party as the murderers in Chicago... the
gangbangers in MS.13... the dreg's of society as a whole?
Fine... we like being in the party that DOESN'T have those people in it.
Name one thing that is happening that is making America greater under Trump.
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2018-04-05 00:09:28 UTC
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Fine... we like being in the party that DOESN'T have those people in
it.
Name one thing that is happening that is making America greater under Trump.
Sorry... I can't name one thing.
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Fine... we like being in the party that DOESN'T have those people in
it.
Name one thing that is happening that is making America greater under Trump.
Sorry... I can't name one thing.
But here's 81.

1. Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and
repealing the Obamacare mandate.

2. Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.

3. Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1
percent.

4. Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.

5. A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.

6. A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.

7. A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.

8. Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA
loans.

9. Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed
for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and
regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.

10. Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.

11. Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the
threat of environmental regulations.

12. Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit
approvals.

13. Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly
targeted the coal industry.

14. Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific
Partnership.

15. Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to
better the deal for the U.S.

16. Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like
Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open
U.S. plants.

17. Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.

18. Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve
national security, a priority.

19. Ended Obama's deal with Cuba.

20. The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting
regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of
Mexico for oil and gas drilling.

21. Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.

22. Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL
Pipeline snubbed by Obama.

23. Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama's Clean
Power Plan.

24. EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

25. Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan
to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in
dozens of family members.

26. Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.

27. Ended the Obama-era "catch and release" of illegal immigrants.

28. Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.

29. Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and
Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.

30. Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.

31. Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival
program.

32. Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of
Americans.

33. Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still
get federal dollars.

34. Added some 100 new immigration judges.

35. Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.

36. Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge
4,000 MS-13 members.

37. Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year
increase.

38. Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on
international criminal organizations.

39. Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety
Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent
crimes.

40. Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil
Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.

41. Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.

42. Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.

43. Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.

44. Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

45. First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency
on opioids.

46. His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that
overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.

47. The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-
point strategy to fight the crisis.

48. Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug
class under the Controlled Substances Act.

49. Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.

50. The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.

51. On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency
collected 456 tons.

52. In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City
Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for
abortions.

53. Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that
blocked states from defunding abortion providers.

54. Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting
abortion.

55. Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act
to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to
fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect
whistleblowers.

56. Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.

57. Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to
provide support.

58. Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize
$2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.

59. Created a VA hotline.

60. Had the VA launch an online "Access and Quality Tool," providing
veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.

61. With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to
expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth
technology.

62. Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national
strategy and nuclear posture review.

63. Worked to increase defense spending.

64. Empowered military leaders to "seize the initiative and win,"
reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.

65. Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space
war strategies.

66. Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.

67. Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw
as a threat to borders.

68. Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism
security.

69. Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.

70. Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its
development of nuclear weapons.

71. Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for
U.S. forces at war with terrorism.

72. NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.

73. Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the
country's influence in the region.

74. Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical
weapons attack.

75. Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect
them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.

76. Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

77. Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his
personal relationships with world leaders.

78. Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the
capital of Israel.

79. Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new
cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits
to promote American interests.

80. He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships
with leaders.

81. Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he
pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.
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the Obama administration... healthcare for the dregs of society, so they'd
Like coal miners with black lung.
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He got them "Niggers votin' Democrat" with free shit, an nothin's changed.
How many of them in coal mines?
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No. You wrote nothing about the article and its truth. You said
literally NOTHING about the article.
You only wrote about the author of the article.
The libs do that to Fox news all the time.
I don't know who "the libs" are...
...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
What's happening? We are making America Great Again.
No... ...you're really not.
I noticed that about you libs. When things don't go your way you whine
and stomp your feets.
I'm in California. Things are going my way.
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...but it doesn't change what's happening here, does it?
LOL... WHAT'S happening "here"? Is this some monumentally important issue?

Nope. I'd drop it like Twitter if you idiots didn't hound me and tell lies
about me. Whaaaaaah.

Is that ME crying? Nope. [giggle]

So, why the fuck respond to it? Do you feel the NEED to address the
disclaimer from TheHill, or that *I* said something against a liberal rag
LIKE them?

You're getting as bad as wy, aka edell. You can COUNT on that shut-in to
respond to David Hartung AS SOON AS he/she sees it on Usenet, probably
even before David's keys have cooled off.

Maybe you have nothing better to do?

I'd ask if YOU were wy in forging-cognito, but he's too stupid and skeered
to use a regular newsreader and his own IP... he has to use Google Groups
and a VPN or proxy, because he's a skeered of the big bad conservatives
"out there".

Someone wants to come looking for me, they have my blessing.

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I didn't say that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.
Yeah... ...you really did. That's why WHAT you said is suddenly gone
Not gone, just not NEEDED to further the discussion. Have you EVER heard
of the word BREVITY?

SHOW me the word "automatically".

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Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.

Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?

We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".

[giggle]
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I didn't say that a "disclaimer automatically means" anything.
Yeah... ...you really did. That's why WHAT you said is suddenly gone
Not gone, just not NEEDED to further the discussion. Have you EVER heard
of the word BREVITY?
SHOW me the word "automatically".
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Love the disclaimer: The views expressed by contributors are their own and
not the view of The Hill.
Means even the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot, and might not be telling
the entire truth. Why ELSE separate yourself from a writer ON your
website?
We're STILL not in the Paris Climate "Agreement".
[giggle]
The lack of the term "automatically" doesn't change that you DID say
that it automatically meant "the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot".
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[giggle]
The lack of the term "automatically" doesn't change that you DID say
that it automatically meant "the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot".
Show me where I used ANY semblance of the word "automatically", or just
shut the fuck up about it, worm.

This is EXACTLY why we think you liberals are mentally fucked in the head.
You parse, part and cherry-pick shit like what I "meant when I said",
instead of focusing on the topic.

Drop it or the thread will close, with you typing your responses for
nothing.

I guess you can talk to yourself if you don't want to drop it, and i have
a feeling you will introduce yet ANOTHER off-topic "click-bait" to lure me
or anyone else back into the conversation, because you obviously have no
one else to talk to in person.

I literally JUST had a conversation with a PERSON... why won't YOU do
that, instead of egging people on to talk wif oo? ;-)
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[giggle]
The lack of the term "automatically" doesn't change that you DID say
that it automatically meant "the Hill thinks he's/she's an idiot".
Show me where I used ANY semblance of the word "automatically", or just
shut the fuck up about it, worm.
No, you ignoramus.

The use of the word "automatically" was in reference to the substance of
what you said.
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This is EXACTLY why we think you liberals are mentally fucked in the head.
You parse, part and cherry-pick shit like what I "meant when I said",
instead of focusing on the topic.
Drop it or the thread will close, with you typing your responses for
nothing.
I guess you can talk to yourself if you don't want to drop it, and i have
a feeling you will introduce yet ANOTHER off-topic "click-bait" to lure me
or anyone else back into the conversation, because you obviously have no
one else to talk to in person.
I literally JUST had a conversation with a PERSON... why won't YOU do
that, instead of egging people on to talk wif oo? ;-)
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Backpedal away if you like.
No back-pedaling necessary, but I DO like it. We used to ride our bikes
like that... sit on the handlebars and pedal backwards... good times.
Sounds like you suffered a brain concussion at some point.
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Of course, being the fat little shut-in that YOU probably are...
I'm neither fat nor a shut-in so quit projecting.
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Ever take the time to see if other websites also post disclaimers as a
matter of policy?
That is not the topic. THIS particular website used a disclaimer.
Disclaimers all mean the same thing... the website doesn't want the
onus on IT. They don't want to be the ones sued or criticized if the article
is full of mistruths, lies or slanderous material. Period.
I don't CARE what "other" websites use... I addressed TheHill's, and
THAT is all that should concern me, or even YOU...
It doesn't mean The Hill "thinks he's/she's an idiot" just because they
happen to be running a disclaimer which is what you said.
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OTHER websites haven't been introduced into evidence.
Oh, you're a lawyer now? Why don't you offer to represent Trump, he'd
probably be glad to have someone as incompetent as you on-board.
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No back-pedaling necessary, but I DO like it. We used to ride our bikes
like that... sit on the handlebars and pedal backwards... good times.
Sounds like you suffered a brain concussion at some point.
Ya... frum fites, knot bykes.
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Did I SAY that a disclaimer was "was something out of the ordinary".
As usual when you are caught in lie, you scream and whine and try to bluster
your way out. You're not fooling anyone. Except maybe yourself.


And you're still delusional.
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