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Eric©
2017-05-18 19:09:59 UTC
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"Independent Senator Andre Pratte is apologizing for any offence he caused by using the
'N-word' twice during a committee hearing Wednesday evening.

Members of the Senate's Legal and Constitutional Affairs committee had gathered to listen
to testimony about Bill C-16, the government's proposed law that would make it illegal to
discriminate on the basis of gender identity and gender expression. Both terms would also
be added to hate speech laws.

Pratte was arguing in favour of calling transgender Canadians by their preferred pronoun,
and used the slur to make a point about how hurtful language can be."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andre-pratte-racially-charged-language-1.4121252
Dave Smith
2017-05-18 19:23:05 UTC
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"Independent Senator Andre Pratte is apologizing for any offence he caused by using the
'N-word' twice during a committee hearing Wednesday evening.
Members of the Senate's Legal and Constitutional Affairs committee had gathered to listen
to testimony about Bill C-16, the government's proposed law that would make it illegal to
discriminate on the basis of gender identity and gender expression. Both terms would also
be added to hate speech laws.
Pratte was arguing in favour of calling transgender Canadians by their preferred pronoun,
and used the slur to make a point about how hurtful language can be."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andre-pratte-racially-charged-language-1.4121252
I don't think the guy did anything wrong. Well hold on. Maybe this goes
back to the issue of cultural appropriation by using a word that is
commonly used by black people. Saying "the N word" instead of "nigger"
is like saying "poop" instead of "shot". Sure, it is offense to call a
black person a nigger. Give it time and "the N word" will become become
an offensive label. There used to be degrees of mental ability that
were called idiot, simpleton and moron. They changed that to mentally
retarded, and now that one is out of favour.

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Dhu on Gate
2017-05-18 19:42:36 UTC
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Post by Eric©
"Independent Senator Andre Pratte is apologizing for any offence he
caused by using the 'N-word' twice during a committee hearing Wednesday
evening.
Members of the Senate's Legal and Constitutional Affairs committee had
gathered to listen to testimony about Bill C-16, the government's
proposed law that would make it illegal to discriminate on the basis of
gender identity and gender expression. Both terms would also be added
to hate speech laws.
Pratte was arguing in favour of calling transgender Canadians by their preferred pronoun,
and used the slur to make a point about how hurtful language can be."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andre-pratte-racially-charged-
language-1.4121252
Post by Dave Smith
I don't think the guy did anything wrong. Well hold on. Maybe this goes
back to the issue of cultural appropriation by using a word that is
commonly used by black people. Saying "the N word" instead of "nigger"
is like saying "poop" instead of "shot". Sure, it is offense to call a
black person a nigger. Give it time and "the N word" will become become
an offensive label. There used to be degrees of mental ability that
were called idiot, simpleton and moron. They changed that to mentally
retarded, and now that one is out of favour.
Idiot does not mean stupid. It means "self observant" in that you see
no other purposes to the wierld than your own. Smart idiots are called
psychopaths, stupid ones often take others with them as well.

Dhu
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Eric©
2017-05-18 20:09:48 UTC
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Dhu on Gate wrote...
Post by Dhu on Gate
Post by Dave Smith
I don't think the guy did anything wrong. Well hold on. Maybe this goes
back to the issue of cultural appropriation by using a word that is
commonly used by black people. Saying "the N word" instead of "nigger"
is like saying "poop" instead of "shot". Sure, it is offense to call a
black person a nigger. Give it time and "the N word" will become become
an offensive label. There used to be degrees of mental ability that
were called idiot, simpleton and moron. They changed that to mentally
retarded, and now that one is out of favour.
Idiot does not mean stupid. It means "self observant" in that you see
no other purposes to the wierld than your own. Smart idiots are called
psychopaths, stupid ones often take others with them as well.
"Imbecile was a medical category of people with moderate to severe intellectual
disability, as well as a type of criminal. The term arises from the Latin word
imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded. It included people with an IQ of 26-50, between
'idiot' (IQ of 0-25) and 'moron' (IQ of 51-70)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile

Aaaah - the good old days.
Dhu on Gate
2017-05-18 20:24:15 UTC
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Dhu on Gate wrote...
Post by Dhu on Gate
Post by Dave Smith
I don't think the guy did anything wrong. Well hold on. Maybe this
goes back to the issue of cultural appropriation by using a word that
is commonly used by black people. Saying "the N word" instead of
"nigger"
is like saying "poop" instead of "shot". Sure, it is offense to call
a black person a nigger. Give it time and "the N word" will become
become an offensive label. There used to be degrees of mental
ability that were called idiot, simpleton and moron. They changed
that to mentally retarded, and now that one is out of favour.
Idiot does not mean stupid. It means "self observant" in that you see
no other purposes to the wierld than your own. Smart idiots are called
psychopaths, stupid ones often take others with them as well.
"Imbecile was a medical category of people with moderate to severe
intellectual disability, as well as a type of criminal. The term arises
from the Latin word imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded. It
included people with an IQ of 26-50, between 'idiot' (IQ of 0-25) and
'moron' (IQ of 51-70)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile
Aaaah - the good old days.
"
In 19th- and early 20th-century medicine and psychology, an "idiot" was a
person with a very severe intellectual disability.
"

Idiot for imbecile is a misuse of latin for purposes of jargonification.
The same learned Doctors also prescribed lobotomies for PMS.

One of the problems with the Good old days is that things _were_ simpler
back then, often to the point of mind-numbing brutality.

Dhu
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Dhu on Gate
2017-05-18 20:43:53 UTC
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Post by Eric©
Dhu on Gate wrote...
Post by Dhu on Gate
Post by Dave Smith
I don't think the guy did anything wrong. Well hold on. Maybe this
goes back to the issue of cultural appropriation by using a word
that is commonly used by black people. Saying "the N word" instead
of "nigger"
is like saying "poop" instead of "shot". Sure, it is offense to
call a black person a nigger. Give it time and "the N word" will
become become an offensive label. There used to be degrees of
mental ability that were called idiot, simpleton and moron. They
changed that to mentally retarded, and now that one is out of
favour.
Idiot does not mean stupid. It means "self observant" in that you see
no other purposes to the wierld than your own. Smart idiots are
called psychopaths, stupid ones often take others with them as well.
"Imbecile was a medical category of people with moderate to severe
intellectual disability, as well as a type of criminal. The term arises
from the Latin word imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded. It
included people with an IQ of 26-50, between 'idiot' (IQ of 0-25) and
'moron' (IQ of 51-70)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile
Aaaah - the good old days.
"
In 19th- and early 20th-century medicine and psychology, an "idiot" was
a person with a very severe intellectual disability.
"
Idiot for imbecile is a misuse of latin for purposes of jargonification.
The same learned Doctors also prescribed lobotomies for PMS.
One of the problems with the Good old days is that things _were_ simpler
back then, often to the point of mind-numbing brutality.
Dhu
Sorry, the etymology is Greek: Id (Self) Iot (Observe).

Dhu
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Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglaise.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)

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