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Violence as a Public Health Issue in Scotland
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Dhu on Gate
2017-12-04 07:28:22 UTC
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https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/dec/03/how-scotland-reduced-knife-deaths-among-young-people

'Once violence was seen as a public health issue, the conversation changed:
“We started to talk to offenders and ex-offenders and to challenge behaviours
and the culture of violence,” says McVie.'

I'd propose that such an approach would be effective against other forms of
domestic violence as well.

Dhu
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gordo
2017-12-04 18:43:36 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 07:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate
Post by Dhu on Gate
https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/dec/03/how-scotland-reduced-knife-deaths-among-young-people
“We started to talk to offenders and ex-offenders and to challenge behaviours
and the culture of violence,” says McVie.'
I'd propose that such an approach would be effective against other forms of
domestic violence as well.
Dhu
I believe you are right. What a new approach to reducing violence.
Sure as hell beats Harpers get tough on crime crap he brought into law
in Canada.

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Cafe Racer
2017-12-04 19:06:33 UTC
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On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 11:28:23 PM UTC-8, Dhu on Gate wrote:

Poverty causes shame, which inculcates inferiority, which causes anger, which leads to attacking other poor people.

Glasgow used to be very scary. It used to be said that the only person who could walk unharmed throug the Gorbals was be a Glasgow fireman in uniform.

I have noticed that wealthy healthy well-housed people do not commit knife crimes; could that be a clue, I wonder?
Dhu on Gate
2017-12-05 01:53:27 UTC
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Poverty causes shame, which inculcates inferiority, which causes anger, which leads to attacking other poor people.
Glasgow used to be very scary. It used to be said that the only person who could walk unharmed throug the Gorbals was be a Glasgow fireman in uniform.
I have noticed that wealthy healthy well-housed people do not commit knife crimes; could that be a clue, I wonder?
The physical circumstances of the populace of Scotland haven't changed
much since the clearances: the place is owned by wealthy Landlords
stealing what they can from the tenants. When I was there 40 years
ago the most violent behaviour towards me was by people in fancy cars
trying to run me over on the side of the road because I "looked American".

Dhu
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Cafe Racer
2017-12-05 04:31:26 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
The physical circumstances of the populace of Scotland haven't changed
much since the clearances.
Basil Buntinhg's bitter poem about that:

The ploughland has gone to bent
and the pasture to heather;
gi'n the goodwife stint,
she’ll keep the house together.

Gi'n the goodwife stint
and the bairns hunger
the Duke can get his rent
one year longer.

The Duke can get his rent
and we can get our ticket
twa pund emigrant
on a C.P.R. packet.


Someone quoted a crofter thrown off his tenancy in favour of heather and grouse for shooting, during the Napoleonic wars. His Duke was recruiting, and the evicted man said "Maybe he can get his grouse to fight Napoleon."
John Milner
2017-12-05 15:41:16 UTC
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His Duke was recruiting, and the evicted man said "Maybe he can get his grouse to fight Napoleon."
...bout the same size, but twice as addled...

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