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If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It Without Turning It Over - He May Be Prosecuted!
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AlleyCat
2017-05-18 00:49:50 UTC
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Well, how about that!

FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.

Quite a pickle!
FOX News reported:

Three months ago, the then-FBI Director met with President Trump.
Following their private conversation, Comey did what he always does -he
wrote a memorandum to himself memorializing the conversation. Good lawyers
do that routinely.

Now, only after Comey was fired, the memo magically surfaces in an
inflammatory New York Times report which alleges that Mr. Trump asked
Comey to end the Michael Flynn investigation.

Those who don't know the first thing about the law immediately began
hurling words like "obstruction of justice", "high crimes and
misdemeanors" and "impeachment". Typically, these people don't know what
they don't know.

Here is what we do know.

Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department
of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the
President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal
charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon
sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he
comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into
question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.
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Alan Baker
2017-05-18 00:59:33 UTC
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Well, how about that!
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
And as usual, you'd rather argue about the messenger than examine the
actual message...
Rudy Canoza
2017-05-18 01:05:57 UTC
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If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It Without Turning It Over - He May Be
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Fuckwit - he wrote the memo *at* the FBI and circulated it among senior
FBI officials. He "turned it over", you fucking idiot.
Alan Baker
2017-05-18 01:07:52 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It Without Turning It Over - He May Be
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Fuckwit - he wrote the memo *at* the FBI and circulated it among senior
FBI officials. He "turned it over", you fucking idiot.
Good point: to whom else was he suppose to "turn it over"?
Rudy Canoza
2017-05-18 01:17:47 UTC
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If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It Without Turning It Over - He May Be
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Fuckwit - he wrote the memo *at* the FBI and circulated it among senior
FBI officials. He "turned it over", you fucking idiot.
Good point: to whom else was he suppose to "turn it over"?
Exactly. These morons never think of stuff like that. They see some
breathless tin-foil-hat-quality bullshit in a right-wingnut and assume
it's always right. It's virtually *never* right.
tRudy Crayola
2017-05-18 07:12:33 UTC
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If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It Without Turning It Over - He May Be
Prosecuted!
Fuckwit - he wrote the memo *at* the FBI and circulated it among senior
FBI officials. He "turned it over", you fucking idiot.
Good point: to whom else was he suppose to "turn it over"?
To the AG idiot! Why is it that a copy cannot be found? Is it true that
Rudy is butt-fucking you? That can't be going very well with you being a
big asshole and Rudy being known as Needle-Dick-The-Bug-Fucker.
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tRudy Crayola
2017-05-18 07:09:32 UTC
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If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It Without Turning It Over - He May Be
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Fuckwit - he wrote the memo *at* the FBI and circulated it among senior
FBI officials. He "turned it over", you fucking idiot.
Anyone can write fiction...That certainly doesn't make it true.
You are an excellent example of writing nothing but fiction and anything
approaching the truth would make your lips fall off.
By the way are you still raping your neighbors cat and eating Dog shit
off the Boulevard?
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RW Maroon
2017-05-18 03:08:18 UTC
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Well, how about that!
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
Quite a pickle!
Three months ago, the then-FBI Director met with President Trump.
Following their private conversation, Comey did what he always does -he
wrote a memorandum to himself memorializing the conversation. Good lawyers
do that routinely.
Now, only after Comey was fired, the memo magically surfaces in an
inflammatory New York Times report which alleges that Mr. Trump asked
Comey to end the Michael Flynn investigation.
Those who don't know the first thing about the law immediately began
hurling words like "obstruction of justice", "high crimes and
misdemeanors" and "impeachment". Typically, these people don't know what
they don't know.
Here is what we do know.
Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department
of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the
President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal
charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon
sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.
So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he
comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into
question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.
Stupidest thing I ever read. And you believe it.

There's just one problem/dilemma. To buy this BS, you have to believe Trump
broke the law.

Heh.
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Rudy Canoza
2017-05-18 04:51:37 UTC
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If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It Without Turning It Over - He May Be
Prosecuted!
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Well, how about that!
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
Quite a pickle!
Three months ago, the then-FBI Director met with President Trump.
Following their private conversation, Comey did what he always does -he
wrote a memorandum to himself memorializing the conversation. Good lawyers
do that routinely.
Now, only after Comey was fired, the memo magically surfaces in an
inflammatory New York Times report which alleges that Mr. Trump asked
Comey to end the Michael Flynn investigation.
Those who don't know the first thing about the law immediately began
hurling words like "obstruction of justice", "high crimes and
misdemeanors" and "impeachment". Typically, these people don't know what
they don't know.
Here is what we do know.
Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department
of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the
President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal
charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon
sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.
So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he
comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into
question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.
Stupidest thing I ever read. And you believe it.
There's just one problem/dilemma. To buy this BS, you have to believe Trump
broke the law.
No. He has to believe that Comey believes Trump broke the law. Of
course, never mind the fact that Comey has not accused Trump of obstruction.

The correct way to deal with this horseshit is to point out that the
claims they make about what must be reported and to whom are flatly
wrong. The U.S. Code provisions they cite do not state that anything
must be reported to the Department of Justice. Furthermore, the FBI is
a *part* of the DOJ, so by writing his memo and circulating and filing
it at the FBI, Comey fulfilled any putative reporting requirement.

These boneheads like "pussycat" et al. always think they've caught a big
fish, when all they've done is hook an old submerged tire.
Schuman
2017-05-18 16:25:46 UTC
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These boneheads like "pussycat" et al. always think they've caught a big
fish, when all they've done is hook an old submerged tire.
11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <***@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8
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and I won't die soon.
Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.
Post by Rudy Canoza
You certainly have no means to hasten my death.
Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.

Siri Cruise
2017-05-18 05:01:29 UTC
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FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
To be obstruction it means it is evidence, and that means Drumpf did try to
quash the investigation. Are you sure you want to go down this street?
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Alan Baker
2017-05-18 05:15:59 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
To be obstruction it means it is evidence, and that means Drumpf did try to
quash the investigation. Are you sure you want to go down this street?
Ooooh.

You asked him to THINK...
tRudy Crayola
2017-05-18 07:16:33 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James
Comey obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president
asking him to end an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
To be obstruction it means it is evidence, and that means Drumpf did
try to quash the investigation. Are you sure you want to go down this
street?
A handwritten memo to ones self is not acceptable in any court in the land.
Are you still injecting drugs between your toes?
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andy memory
2017-05-18 16:24:53 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
To be obstruction it means it is evidence,
Never reported to DOJ...
Post by Siri Cruise
and that means Drumpf did try to
quash the investigation.
Never reported to DOJ...
Post by Siri Cruise
Are you sure you want to go down this street?
It's a nice enough neighborhood:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/16/gregg-jarrett-comeys-revenge-is-gun-without-powder.html

"Comey has put himself in a box. If he now accuses the President of
obstruction, he places himself in legal jeopardy for failing to promptly
and properly report it. If he says it was merely an uncomfortable
conversation, he clears the president of wrongdoing and sullies his own
image as a guy who attempted to smear the man who fired him."
Rudy Canoza
2017-05-18 05:19:16 UTC
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Well, how about that!
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett
LOL!
Schuman
2017-05-18 16:22:50 UTC
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Well, how about that!
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett
LOL!
11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <***@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8
and I won't die soon.
Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.
You certainly have no means to hasten my death.
Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.
NoBody
2017-05-18 12:27:29 UTC
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Well, how about that!
FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey
obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end
an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.
Quite a pickle!
Three months ago, the then-FBI Director met with President Trump.
Following their private conversation, Comey did what he always does -he
wrote a memorandum to himself memorializing the conversation. Good lawyers
do that routinely.
Now, only after Comey was fired, the memo magically surfaces in an
inflammatory New York Times report which alleges that Mr. Trump asked
Comey to end the Michael Flynn investigation.
Those who don't know the first thing about the law immediately began
hurling words like "obstruction of justice", "high crimes and
misdemeanors" and "impeachment". Typically, these people don't know what
they don't know.
Here is what we do know.
Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department
of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the
President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal
charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon
sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.
So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he
comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into
question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.
No! :)
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