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They're Probably Pedophiles
2017-12-03 01:06:00 UTC
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Steve Jalsevac is co-founder and managing director of LifeSiteNews (LSN), a
“news” site pushing the usual wingnut stuff: creationism, anti-gay rhetoric
(e.g. praise for the draconian Ugandan anti-gay act, and their Matthew
Cullinan Hoffman has argued that anti-gay organizations needto become
“nastier”) and climate change denialism (Jalsevac, a Catholic, was none too
happy that the Pope weighed in on environmental issues). LSN has also
demanded that the Catholic Church excommunicate Democratic politicians
(Gerard Nadal), maintained that feminists were to blame for the Costa
Concordia disaster (Hilary White), compared gays and lesbians to pagans
(David Krayden of the Canadian Centre for Policy Studies), and fervently
supported ex-gay ‘reparative’ therapy. Jalsevac has even asked for donations
to promote “freedom from the homosexual lifestyle”. That kind.

Some examples:
In 2013 LSN came out heavily in favor of gubernatorial candidate Ken
Cuccinelli (a fan). In fact, they even claimed that he won the election:
“Notice that the map seems to be almost solid red. And yet, Ken Cuccinelli
somehow very narrowly lost to his Democrat opponent. To me, something smells
about this race,” said Jalsevac. Of course, hat candidates win by numbers of
people and that Cuccinelli’s opponent McAuliffe dominated more urban areas
just aren’t relevant facts to Jalsevac, who rather “suspect[s] Ken Cuccinelli
actually won Virginia, but certain things happened, beyond the betrayal by
some Republicans, campaign weaknesses and other reported issues, to ensure
that that would not be the official result.” Note that it cannot be because
of voter fraud (in that case he couldn’t have used the dominance of redness
on the map as evidence); it must have been … who knows: perhaps basic
arithmetics is a liberal conspiracy or something. And the fact that the party
breakdown of the results in Virginia’s counties in the 2013 gubernatorial
election looks very similar to those in the 2012 presidential election? The
2012 election was rigged, too, of course.

Later in 2013 Jalsevac wondered why Obama has “not been booted out of office”
and “not been charged” over his handling of the George Zimmerman case (yes) –
alleging that Obama led a “failed attempted lynching” of Zimmerman as part of
a “lib-leftist generated Latino vs African-American race confrontation” – and
the fact that he has “hatefully undermined the entire social and historical
foundations of the nation.” Jalsevac apparently found it incomprehensible
that Amricans can support him and his “Black baby-killing abortion genocide.”
Indeed, it “seems to me to be a kind of Jim Jones social suicide cult under
the hypnotic control of their cult leader,” said Jalsevac. When
Rightwingwatch reported on his claims, Jalsevac responded by accusing them of
being funded by George Soros. Also, Benghazi.


Diagnosis: Yet another one. The LSN seems to have a certain readership,
however, and the readers are probably not only people looking for a laugh
over fuming, raging, crazy conspiracy theories.


http://americanloons.blogspot.in/2017/02/1786-steve-jalsevac.html



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a322x1n
2017-12-03 04:19:28 UTC
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Steve Jalsevac is co-founder and managing director of LifeSiteNews
(LSN), a “news” site pushing the usual wingnut stuff: creationism,
anti-gay rhetoric (e.g. praise for the draconian Ugandan anti-gay act,
and their Matthew Cullinan Hoffman has argued that anti-gay
organizations needto become “nastier”) and climate change denialism
(Jalsevac, a Catholic, was none too happy that the Pope weighed in on
environmental issues). LSN has also demanded that the Catholic Church
excommunicate Democratic politicians (Gerard Nadal), maintained that
feminists were to blame for the Costa Concordia disaster (Hilary
White), compared gays and lesbians to pagans (David Krayden of the
Canadian Centre for Policy Studies), and fervently supported ex-gay
‘reparative’ therapy. Jalsevac has even asked for donations to promote
“freedom from the homosexual lifestyle”. That kind.
In 2013 LSN came out heavily in favor of gubernatorial candidate Ken
Cuccinelli (a fan). In fact, they even claimed that he won the
election: “Notice that the map seems to be almost solid red. And yet,
Ken Cuccinelli somehow very narrowly lost to his Democrat opponent. To
me, something smells about this race,” said Jalsevac. Of course, hat
candidates win by numbers of people and that Cuccinelli’s opponent
McAuliffe dominated more urban areas just aren’t relevant facts to
Jalsevac, who rather “suspect[s] Ken Cuccinelli actually won Virginia,
but certain things happened, beyond the betrayal by some Republicans,
campaign weaknesses and other reported issues, to ensure that that
would not be the official result.” Note that it cannot be because of
voter fraud (in that case he couldn’t have used the dominance of
perhaps basic arithmetics is a liberal conspiracy or something. And
the fact that the party breakdown of the results in Virginia’s
counties in the 2013 gubernatorial election looks very similar to
those in the 2012 presidential election? The 2012 election was rigged,
too, of course.
Later in 2013 Jalsevac wondered why Obama has “not been booted out of
office” and “not been charged” over his handling of the George
Zimmerman case (yes) – alleging that Obama led a “failed attempted
lynching” of Zimmerman as part of a “lib-leftist generated Latino vs
African-American race confrontation” – and the fact that he has
“hatefully undermined the entire social and historical foundations of
the nation.” Jalsevac apparently found it incomprehensible that
Amricans can support him and his “Black baby-killing abortion
genocide.” Indeed, it “seems to me to be a kind of Jim Jones social
suicide cult under the hypnotic control of their cult leader,” said
Jalsevac. When Rightwingwatch reported on his claims, Jalsevac
responded by accusing them of being funded by George Soros. Also,
Benghazi.
Diagnosis: Yet another one. The LSN seems to have a certain
readership, however, and the readers are probably not only people
looking for a laugh over fuming, raging, crazy conspiracy theories.
http://americanloons.blogspot.in/2017/02/1786-steve-jalsevac.html
<http://tinyurl.com/ycczyqp9>
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Deviant child abusers are most often white radical right wing
Christians.
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Libs R Pervs
2017-12-03 18:46:56 UTC
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Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.

God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
a322x1n
2017-12-03 21:35:27 UTC
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Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter
followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn". Get over it and get a life.
Libs R Pervs
2017-12-03 21:55:43 UTC
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On 12/3/2017 2:35 PM, a322x1n wrote:


* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
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Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter
followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn

Definition of unborn

1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.

And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
MattB
2017-12-03 22:53:45 UTC
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* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Libs R Pervs
2017-12-04 15:15:54 UTC
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Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!

Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?

He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
MattB
2017-12-04 20:28:26 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not. Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?

Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?

I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms

Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
2017-12-04 22:46:32 UTC
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Post by MattB
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* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.

His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Post by MattB
Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Post by MattB
I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
Post by MattB
Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
MattB
2017-12-05 03:47:09 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:46:32 -0700, Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
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Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.
His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Not for any human to say according to the Bible. You have only
opinion.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Can you provide proof you have such power? I see no lightning coming
from your fingers.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Yes and would you stop the killing of heretics by a church?
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
OK
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
OK, that is your choice.

Now has this person committed abortion on another or does he just
refuse to allow your religion to be forced on him.

Tell me when you or your church allow a child to die from lack of food
or care aren't you also guilty of murder in God's eyes??

Then again wonder what Jesus thinks of Pedophile priest and those that
turn a blind eye to it?
Lauer's Sex Toy World
2017-12-05 15:38:15 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.
His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Not for any human to say according to the Bible. You have only
opinion.
This whole medium is built on opinion, deal.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Can you provide proof you have such power? I see no lightning coming
from your fingers.
Ekshually you just replied to it!!!!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Yes and would you stop the killing of heretics by a church?
Indeed.

And you?
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
OK
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
OK, that is your choice.
Now has this person committed abortion on another or does he just
refuse to allow your religion to be forced on him.
1. You have no idea what "my religion" is.

2. Whatever it is I have not "forced it on him".

3. This subhuman filth has multiple times called for abortion on demand.

4. This vermin says abortion is "good" for an unborn child.

5. This scumbag does this regularly here.
Post by MattB
Tell me when you or your church allow a child to die from lack of food
or care aren't you also guilty of murder in God's eyes??
1. My "church" is none of YOUR bidnits, got it?

2. No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depradations.

3. YOU are doing the very same thing that causes conservatives to loathe
you here, and you do it all the time!
Post by MattB
Then again wonder what Jesus thinks of Pedophile priest and those that
turn a blind eye to it?
Why would you NEED to "wonder"?

You're doing it to yourself again trdell, smart you ain't, by a LONG shot!
MattB
2017-12-05 19:37:25 UTC
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Post by MattB
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:46:32 -0700, Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
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Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.
His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Not for any human to say according to the Bible. You have only
opinion.
This whole medium is built on opinion, deal.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Can you provide proof you have such power? I see no lightning coming
from your fingers.
Ekshually you just replied to it!!!!
No I saw no authority. Someone pretending to be God is what I have
seen posted here by you. No person or Church had the authority you
claim to have.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Yes and would you stop the killing of heretics by a church?
Indeed.
And you?
I would have tried. Go for the priest first. The mob just a bunch of
brainwashed idiots.
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Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
OK
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
OK, that is your choice.
Now has this person committed abortion on another or does he just
refuse to allow your religion to be forced on him.
1. You have no idea what "my religion" is.
Nope except if it teaches you to say what you have been saying it
isn't from the Bible.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. Whatever it is I have not "forced it on him".
Like I said you lack authority
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. This subhuman filth has multiple times called for abortion on demand.
Well in many secular countries it is the law of the land within
limits. Like the USA.

Do you support law based on religion?
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
4. This vermin says abortion is "good" for an unborn child.
Well he is a idiot in that. Abortion is because someone was to cheap
if stupid to use contraceptives. Well except in cases of rape.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
5. This scumbag does this regularly here.
Post by MattB
Tell me when you or your church allow a child to die from lack of food
or care aren't you also guilty of murder in God's eyes??
1. My "church" is none of YOUR bidnits, got it?
Well I reject it, be it atheist, Satanic or claimed Christian if they
teach what you spout.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depradations.
So there are no hungry kids in your town or State or country?
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. YOU are doing the very same thing that causes conservatives to loathe
you here, and you do it all the time!
I loath conservatives at this time. They are passing a tax bill that
my grand kids will be paying off the cost.

I'm socially conservative to a degree and that has nothing to do with
religion.
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Post by MattB
Then again wonder what Jesus thinks of Pedophile priest and those that
turn a blind eye to it?
Why would you NEED to "wonder"?
You're doing it to yourself again trdell, smart you ain't, by a LONG shot!
Whatever.

You still have not shown where your authority to revoke a persons
salvation comes from. It isn't Biblical.
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* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.
His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Not for any human to say according to the Bible. You have only
opinion.
This whole medium is built on opinion, deal.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Can you provide proof you have such power? I see no lightning coming
from your fingers.
Ekshually you just replied to it!!!!
No I saw no authority.
Of course you did.
Post by MattB
Someone pretending to be God is what I have
seen posted here by you.
I make no pretense.
Post by MattB
No person or Church had the authority you
claim to have.
All men have the same authority.

The Creator is in each of us.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Yes and would you stop the killing of heretics by a church?
Indeed.
And you?
I would have tried. Go for the priest first. The mob just a bunch of
brainwashed idiots.
Mmm'k, works for me.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
OK
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
OK, that is your choice.
Now has this person committed abortion on another or does he just
refuse to allow your religion to be forced on him.
1. You have no idea what "my religion" is.
Nope except if it teaches you to say what you have been saying it
isn't from the Bible.
Speculation.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. Whatever it is I have not "forced it on him".
Like I said you lack authority
Nope, I AM authority!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. This subhuman filth has multiple times called for abortion on demand.
Well in many secular countries it is the law of the land within
limits. Like the USA.
He has NO LIMITS!

He wants all the unborn to be killed.
Post by MattB
Do you support law based on religion?
Yes, I support our Constitution.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
4. This vermin says abortion is "good" for an unborn child.
Well he is a idiot in that. Abortion is because someone was to cheap
if stupid to use contraceptives. Well except in cases of rape.
And life of the mother, etc.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
5. This scumbag does this regularly here.
Post by MattB
Tell me when you or your church allow a child to die from lack of food
or care aren't you also guilty of murder in God's eyes??
1. My "church" is none of YOUR bidnits, got it?
Well I reject it,
What?

You have NO CLUE what "my church" is, so you cannot reject "it"!
Post by MattB
be it atheist, Satanic or claimed Christian if they
teach what you spout.
Wah!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depradations.
So there are no hungry kids in your town or State or country?
So you feel they are all the wards of "my church"?

Here's a clue - faiths do as best they can in a secular society, cope
asshole.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. YOU are doing the very same thing that causes conservatives to loathe
you here, and you do it all the time!
I loath conservatives at this time.
I know!
Post by MattB
They are passing a tax bill that
my grand kids will be paying off the cost.
You and the idiotic CBO have NO FUCKING CLUE if that will ever be the case!

Stop being led by the nose, fool.
Post by MattB
I'm socially conservative to a degree and that has nothing to do with
religion.
SFW!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Then again wonder what Jesus thinks of Pedophile priest and those that
turn a blind eye to it?
Why would you NEED to "wonder"?
You're doing it to yourself again trdell, smart you ain't, by a LONG shot!
Whatever.
Nailed it.
Post by MattB
You still have not shown where your authority to revoke a persons
salvation comes from. It isn't Biblical.
I share with those who have a need to know or the perceptual acu,en to know.

You lose both times.
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2017-12-05 20:19:37 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter
followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.
His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Not for any human to say according to the Bible. You have only
opinion.
This whole medium is built on opinion, deal.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Can you provide proof you have such power? I see no lightning coming
from your fingers.
Ekshually you just replied to it!!!!
No I saw no authority.
Of course you did.
Post by MattB
Someone pretending to be God is what I have
seen posted here by you.
I make no pretense.
Post by MattB
No person or Church had the authority you
claim to have.
All men have the same authority.
The Creator is in each of us.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Yes and would you stop the killing of heretics by a church?
Indeed.
And you?
I would have tried. Go for the priest first. The mob just a bunch of
brainwashed idiots.
Mmm'k, works for me.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
OK
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
OK, that is your choice.
Now has this person committed abortion on another or does he just
refuse to allow your religion to be forced on him.
1. You have no idea what "my religion" is.
Nope except if it teaches you to say what you have been saying it
isn't from the Bible.
Speculation.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. Whatever it is I have not "forced it on him".
Like I said you lack authority
Nope, I AM authority!
Is that what he truly believes or is he saying that for effect.
Getting you to act in a certain way and getting pleasure from it.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. This subhuman filth has multiple times called for abortion on demand.
Well in many secular countries it is the law of the land within
limits. Like the USA.
He has NO LIMITS!
He isn't getting his way then.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
He wants all the unborn to be killed.
That would be genocide. Although I can see the world being a better
place if certain Politicians well.........
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Do you support law based on religion?
Yes, I support our Constitution.
That is not based on religion in fact it limits religion in
government.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
4. This vermin says abortion is "good" for an unborn child.
Well he is a idiot in that. Abortion is because someone was to cheap
if stupid to use contraceptives. Well except in cases of rape.
And life of the mother, etc.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
5. This scumbag does this regularly here.
Post by MattB
Tell me when you or your church allow a child to die from lack of food
or care aren't you also guilty of murder in God's eyes??
1. My "church" is none of YOUR bidnits, got it?
Well I reject it,
What?
You have NO CLUE what "my church" is, so you cannot reject "it"!
Post by MattB
be it atheist, Satanic or claimed Christian if they
teach what you spout.
Wah!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depradations.
So there are no hungry kids in your town or State or country?
So you feel they are all the wards of "my church"?
"No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depredations"

Your statement made them such.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Here's a clue - faiths do as best they can in a secular society, cope
asshole.
No religious government in history did better. Calvin's Geneva was
hell on earth... Catholics were pure evil.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. YOU are doing the very same thing that causes conservatives to loathe
you here, and you do it all the time!
I loath conservatives at this time.
I know!
Post by MattB
They are passing a tax bill that
my grand kids will be paying off the cost.
You and the idiotic CBO have NO FUCKING CLUE if that will ever be the case!
Yes we do. Cut income without cutting spending and you already have a
debt. That is the conservative way?
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Stop being led by the nose, fool.
LOL Brainwashed much.
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
I'm socially conservative to a degree and that has nothing to do with
religion.
SFW!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Then again wonder what Jesus thinks of Pedophile priest and those that
turn a blind eye to it?
Why would you NEED to "wonder"?
You're doing it to yourself again trdell, smart you ain't, by a LONG shot!
Whatever.
Nailed it.
Post by MattB
You still have not shown where your authority to revoke a persons
salvation comes from. It isn't Biblical.
I share with those who have a need to know or the perceptual acu,en to know.
You lose both times.
No there is only one according to the Bible with such authority and
you or your church are not it.
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Post by MattB
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Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter
followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.
His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Not for any human to say according to the Bible. You have only
opinion.
This whole medium is built on opinion, deal.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Can you provide proof you have such power? I see no lightning coming
from your fingers.
Ekshually you just replied to it!!!!
No I saw no authority.
Of course you did.
Post by MattB
Someone pretending to be God is what I have
seen posted here by you.
I make no pretense.
Post by MattB
No person or Church had the authority you
claim to have.
All men have the same authority.
The Creator is in each of us.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Yes and would you stop the killing of heretics by a church?
Indeed.
And you?
I would have tried. Go for the priest first. The mob just a bunch of
brainwashed idiots.
Mmm'k, works for me.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
OK
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
OK, that is your choice.
Now has this person committed abortion on another or does he just
refuse to allow your religion to be forced on him.
1. You have no idea what "my religion" is.
Nope except if it teaches you to say what you have been saying it
isn't from the Bible.
Speculation.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. Whatever it is I have not "forced it on him".
Like I said you lack authority
Nope, I AM authority!
Is that what he truly believes or is he saying that for effect.
Are you qualified to get inside the head space of a troll and gauge that?
Post by MattB
Getting you to act in a certain way and getting pleasure from it.
It was not just me, not by a long shot...
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. This subhuman filth has multiple times called for abortion on demand.
Well in many secular countries it is the law of the land within
limits. Like the USA.
He has NO LIMITS!
He isn't getting his way then.
Thankfully!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
He wants all the unborn to be killed.
That would be genocide.
Indeed.
Post by MattB
Although I can see the world being a better
place if certain Politicians well.........
We're ALL nascent politicians, get rid of one and another of us steps in
to be "the enemy".

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Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Do you support law based on religion?
Yes, I support our Constitution.
That is not based on religion
DEAD WRONG!!!

http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government

Biblical Principles: Basis for America's Laws

PRINCIPLE LEGAL DOCUMENT BIBLE
Sovereign authority of God, not sovereignty of the state, or sovereignty
of man Mayflower Compact, Declaration, Constitution, currency, oaths,
mention of God in all 50 state constitutions, Pledge of Allegiance Ex.
18:16, 20:3, Dt. 10:20, 2 Chron. 7:14, Ps. 83:18, 91:2, Isa. 9:6-7, Dan.
4:32, Jn. 19:11, Acts 5:29, Rom. 13:1, Col 1:15-20, 1 Tim. 6:15
Existence of objective moral values, Fixed standards, Absolute truth,
Sanctity of life Declaration ("unalienable" rights—life, etc.,
"self-evident" truths) Ex. 20:1-17, Dt. 30:19, Ps. 119:142-152, Pr.
14:34, Isa. 5:20-21, Jn. 10:10, Rom. 2:15, Heb. 13:8
Rule of law rather than authority of man Declaration, Constitution Ex.
18:24-27, Dt. 17:20, Isa. 8:19-20, Mat. 5:17-18
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer.
17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
Post by MattB
in fact it limits religion in
government.
A completely separate discussion.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
4. This vermin says abortion is "good" for an unborn child.
Well he is a idiot in that. Abortion is because someone was to cheap
if stupid to use contraceptives. Well except in cases of rape.
And life of the mother, etc.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
5. This scumbag does this regularly here.
Post by MattB
Tell me when you or your church allow a child to die from lack of food
or care aren't you also guilty of murder in God's eyes??
1. My "church" is none of YOUR bidnits, got it?
Well I reject it,
What?
You have NO CLUE what "my church" is, so you cannot reject "it"!
Post by MattB
be it atheist, Satanic or claimed Christian if they
teach what you spout.
Wah!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
2. No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depradations.
So there are no hungry kids in your town or State or country?
So you feel they are all the wards of "my church"?
"No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depredations"
Your statement made them such.
Nope.

My statement was accurate.

You lack the tools to know why.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Here's a clue - faiths do as best they can in a secular society, cope
asshole.
No religious government in history did better. Calvin's Geneva was
hell on earth... Catholics were pure evil.
And ALL were REFORMED!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
3. YOU are doing the very same thing that causes conservatives to loathe
you here, and you do it all the time!
I loath conservatives at this time.
I know!
Post by MattB
They are passing a tax bill that
my grand kids will be paying off the cost.
You and the idiotic CBO have NO FUCKING CLUE if that will ever be the case!
Yes we do. Cut income without cutting spending and you already have a
debt. That is the conservative way?
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Stop being led by the nose, fool.
LOL Brainwashed much.
Are ya?
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
I'm socially conservative to a degree and that has nothing to do with
religion.
SFW!
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy World
Post by MattB
Then again wonder what Jesus thinks of Pedophile priest and those that
turn a blind eye to it?
Why would you NEED to "wonder"?
You're doing it to yourself again trdell, smart you ain't, by a LONG shot!
Whatever.
Nailed it.
Post by MattB
You still have not shown where your authority to revoke a persons
salvation comes from. It isn't Biblical.
I share with those who have a need to know or the perceptual acu,en to know.
You lose both times.
No there is only one according to the Bible with such authority and
you or your church are not it.
The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
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Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by MattB
Post by Libs R Pervs
* after stripping half the groups out of the followups, the gutless
baby-killing cunt!
Post by a322x1n
Post by Libs R Pervs
Post by a322x1n
Excellent URL, thanks. I've Tweeted it to all of my Twitter
followers.
Oh damn, as a serial baby-killer you prolly DO have some
'followers'...the ones lucky enough to even be born in a world where
secular murderers like you still suck air in while killing the unborn
for shits and grins.
God is so going to unwind your soul, make book on that.
There's no such thing as an "unborn".
Oh I promise you there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unborn
Definition of unborn
1 : not born : not brought into life
2 : still to appear : future
3 : existing without birth
Post by a322x1n
Get over it and get a life.
No, TAKING life from the unborn is what YOU are all about scumbag, not me.
And you WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!
How can you make such a promise when you aren't in authority to judge?
Are you actually going to mount a defense for a murderous scumbag who
has openly supported abortion on demand as a good thing?!?!?!
I neither defend him or not.
The really you have NOTHING to say here.
His soul will be immolated to eternal damnation.
Not for any human to say according to the Bible. You have only
opinion.
This whole medium is built on opinion, deal.
Post by MattB
Post by Lauer's Sex Toy Wolrd
Post by MattB
Yet the point remains you said "you
WILL pay and pay dearly, I promise you that!" Where do get the
authority to make such a promise?
Why from the Creator of course, Nature's God!
Can you provide proof you have such power? I see no lightning coming
from your fingers.
Ekshually you just replied to it!!!!
No I saw no authority.
Of course you did.
Post by MattB
Someone pretending to be God is what I have
seen posted here by you.
I make no pretense.
Post by MattB
No person or Church had the authority you
claim to have.
All men have the same authority.
The Creator is in each of us.
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Also do you believe you have the right to force non-Christians to obey
the Bible?
I believe we ALL have the right to stop a murder before it happens.
Yes and would you stop the killing of heretics by a church?
Indeed.
And you?
I would have tried. Go for the priest first. The mob just a bunch of
brainwashed idiots.
Mmm'k, works for me.
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I also find many churches forbidding use of contraception to be not
Biblical. I mean why can't people use condoms
No skin off my dick if they do...
OK
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Do not like abortion personally, except where it is needed to keep the
mother alive.
Roger that.
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Do you have any familiarity at all with this troll's act here?
Partially.
It is among the very worst of the dead end kids.
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He thinks it's all some kind of a joke!
Maybe. Yet are you the judge?
I can judge this one all day long.
OK, that is your choice.
Now has this person committed abortion on another or does he just
refuse to allow your religion to be forced on him.
1. You have no idea what "my religion" is.
Nope except if it teaches you to say what you have been saying it
isn't from the Bible.
Speculation.
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2. Whatever it is I have not "forced it on him".
Like I said you lack authority
Nope, I AM authority!
Is that what he truly believes or is he saying that for effect.
Are you qualified to get inside the head space of a troll and gauge that?
Don't think Id want to get into anyone head. Can you imagine getting
into Patrick's head? I'd be afraid I'd bite myself.
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Getting you to act in a certain way and getting pleasure from it.
It was not just me, not by a long shot...
To some the more the better.
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3. This subhuman filth has multiple times called for abortion on demand.
Well in many secular countries it is the law of the land within
limits. Like the USA.
He has NO LIMITS!
He isn't getting his way then.
Thankfully!
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He wants all the unborn to be killed.
That would be genocide.
Indeed.
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Although I can see the world being a better
place if certain Politicians well.........
We're ALL nascent politicians, get rid of one and another of us steps in
to be "the enemy".
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Do you support law based on religion?
Yes, I support our Constitution.
That is not based on religion
DEAD WRONG!!!
http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government
Biblical Principles: Basis for America's Laws
PRINCIPLE LEGAL DOCUMENT BIBLE
Sovereign authority of God, not sovereignty of the state, or sovereignty
of man Mayflower Compact, Declaration, Constitution, currency, oaths,
mention of God in all 50 state constitutions, Pledge of Allegiance Ex.
18:16, 20:3, Dt. 10:20, 2 Chron. 7:14, Ps. 83:18, 91:2, Isa. 9:6-7, Dan.
4:32, Jn. 19:11, Acts 5:29, Rom. 13:1, Col 1:15-20, 1 Tim. 6:15
Existence of objective moral values, Fixed standards, Absolute truth,
Sanctity of life Declaration ("unalienable" rights—life, etc.,
"self-evident" truths) Ex. 20:1-17, Dt. 30:19, Ps. 119:142-152, Pr.
14:34, Isa. 5:20-21, Jn. 10:10, Rom. 2:15, Heb. 13:8
Rule of law rather than authority of man Declaration, Constitution Ex.
18:24-27, Dt. 17:20, Isa. 8:19-20, Mat. 5:17-18
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer.
17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
Try again.
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in fact it limits religion in
government.
A completely separate discussion.
Yes and no.
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4. This vermin says abortion is "good" for an unborn child.
Well he is a idiot in that. Abortion is because someone was to cheap
if stupid to use contraceptives. Well except in cases of rape.
And life of the mother, etc.
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5. This scumbag does this regularly here.
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Tell me when you or your church allow a child to die from lack of food
or care aren't you also guilty of murder in God's eyes??
1. My "church" is none of YOUR bidnits, got it?
Well I reject it,
What?
You have NO CLUE what "my church" is, so you cannot reject "it"!
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be it atheist, Satanic or claimed Christian if they
teach what you spout.
Wah!
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2. No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depradations.
So there are no hungry kids in your town or State or country?
So you feel they are all the wards of "my church"?
"No church I have ever attended has ever allowed a child to die from
such depredations"
Your statement made them such.
Nope.
My statement was accurate.
You lack the tools to know why.
Now that sounds like a Patrick or Duke reply.
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Here's a clue - faiths do as best they can in a secular society, cope
asshole.
No religious government in history did better. Calvin's Geneva was
hell on earth... Catholics were pure evil.
And ALL were REFORMED!
Define "REFORMED". Do you mean they became more secular?
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3. YOU are doing the very same thing that causes conservatives to loathe
you here, and you do it all the time!
I loath conservatives at this time.
I know!
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They are passing a tax bill that
my grand kids will be paying off the cost.
You and the idiotic CBO have NO FUCKING CLUE if that will ever be the case!
Yes we do. Cut income without cutting spending and you already have a
debt. That is the conservative way?
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Stop being led by the nose, fool.
LOL Brainwashed much.
Are ya?
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I'm socially conservative to a degree and that has nothing to do with
religion.
SFW!
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Then again wonder what Jesus thinks of Pedophile priest and those that
turn a blind eye to it?
Why would you NEED to "wonder"?
You're doing it to yourself again trdell, smart you ain't, by a LONG shot!
Whatever.
Nailed it.
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You still have not shown where your authority to revoke a persons
salvation comes from. It isn't Biblical.
I share with those who have a need to know or the perceptual acu,en to know.
You lose both times.
No there is only one according to the Bible with such authority and
you or your church are not it.
The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion. Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?

The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
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Do you support law based on religion?
Yes, I support our Constitution.
That is not based on religion
DEAD WRONG!!!
http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government
Biblical Principles: Basis for America's Laws
PRINCIPLE LEGAL DOCUMENT BIBLE
Sovereign authority of God, not sovereignty of the state, or sovereignty
of man Mayflower Compact, Declaration, Constitution, currency, oaths,
mention of God in all 50 state constitutions, Pledge of Allegiance Ex.
18:16, 20:3, Dt. 10:20, 2 Chron. 7:14, Ps. 83:18, 91:2, Isa. 9:6-7, Dan.
4:32, Jn. 19:11, Acts 5:29, Rom. 13:1, Col 1:15-20, 1 Tim. 6:15
Existence of objective moral values, Fixed standards, Absolute truth,
Sanctity of life Declaration ("unalienable" rights—life, etc.,
"self-evident" truths) Ex. 20:1-17, Dt. 30:19, Ps. 119:142-152, Pr.
14:34, Isa. 5:20-21, Jn. 10:10, Rom. 2:15, Heb. 13:8
Rule of law rather than authority of man Declaration, Constitution Ex.
18:24-27, Dt. 17:20, Isa. 8:19-20, Mat. 5:17-18
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer.
17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
Try again.
Wwhy?
If you can not accept an authoritative citation like that then your mind
is closed to reality.

Basta, as expected.
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No religious government in history did better. Calvin's Geneva was
hell on earth... Catholics were pure evil.
And ALL were REFORMED!
Define "REFORMED". Do you mean they became more secular?
And have you NEVER heard of "the Reformation"????

This is silliness lived large!

https://www.britannica.com/event/Reformation
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The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion.
Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?
Was your sole purpose here mockery of divergent faiths?

If so - ESAD.
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The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
I am sorry you believe that as it is 100% wrong.

The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right up until we embrace
our secular Satan.

After that free will, salvation, prayer and lessons learned are the path
back.
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The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion.
Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?
Was your sole purpose here mockery of divergent faiths?
I went to see Benny Hinn and he is a total fraud. People were waiting
for signals to fall down.
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If so - ESAD.
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The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
I am sorry you believe that as it is 100% wrong.
The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right up until we embrace
our secular Satan.
If the 'Holy Spirit is in control, how can you 'embrace
secular Satan'?
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After that free will, salvation, prayer and lessons learned are the path
back.
The words of 'Jesus' lead to salvation not the church.
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The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion.
Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?
Was your sole purpose here mockery of divergent faiths?
I went to see Benny Hinn and he is a total fraud. People were waiting
for signals to fall down.
Why would you do that anyway?

Weak of mind and spirit?
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If so - ESAD.
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The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
I am sorry you believe that as it is 100% wrong.
The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right up until we embrace
our secular Satan.
If the 'Holy Spirit is in control, how can you 'embrace
secular Satan'?
God gave man 'free will' you know.
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After that free will, salvation, prayer and lessons learned are the path
back.
The words of 'Jesus' lead to salvation not the church.
Did I SAY "the church"?

Do you SEE that anywhere in my reply?

No?

So fuck off with your own agenda, dumbass.
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The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion.
Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?
Was your sole purpose here mockery of divergent faiths?
I went to see Benny Hinn and he is a total fraud. People were waiting
for signals to fall down.
Why would you do that anyway?
How can you decide about something unless you go and check it out.
Been to many religious functions Catholic, Baptist and born again and
such over the years.

As to why I went to this event it was in Florida and went with a
friend who was at that time a fan of Benny. He left that event with a
loss of belief in the man.
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Weak of mind and spirit?
How do you know if something is good or bad. Do you check it out
yourself or do you let your Church tell you. If your Church how do
they know?
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If so - ESAD.
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The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
I am sorry you believe that as it is 100% wrong.
The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right up until we embrace
our secular Satan.
If the 'Holy Spirit is in control, how can you 'embrace
secular Satan'?
God gave man 'free will' you know.
Then the Holy Spirit is not in "Control". It is a guide as I
suggested. That is the take I get on how it should be in the Bible.
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After that free will, salvation, prayer and lessons learned are the path
back.
The words of 'Jesus' lead to salvation not the church.
Did I SAY "the church"?
Then where do you get your information? You'd admitted you don't do
personal research. Do you hear voices?

Don't try to tell me the Holy Spirit tells you. I've tested that
among Holy rollers and they failed. You see if Holy Rollers did talk
directly to the Holy Spirit when you asked one a question you would
get the same answer from them all.
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Do you SEE that anywhere in my reply?
What I saw in your reply was deception and deceit. I said "The Holy
spirit is a guide not in control". You go on to say it is with the
deceptive reply. "The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right
up until we embrace our secular Satan" To you the Holy Spirit is in
Control but isn't really??
.
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No?
So fuck off with your own agenda, dumbass.
Looks like you have a agenda and it is a false belief. Do you fall on
the floor and squirm? You a holy roller?

Belief in Jesus should not be about your personal power or being
better than those around you.
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The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion.
Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?
Was your sole purpose here mockery of divergent faiths?
I went to see Benny Hinn and he is a total fraud. People were waiting
for signals to fall down.
Why would you do that anyway?
How can you decide about something unless you go and check it out.
Uh, you can just use common sense...
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Been to many religious functions Catholic, Baptist and born again and
such over the years.
That's nice, and?
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As to why I went to this event it was in Florida and went with a
friend who was at that time a fan of Benny. He left that event with a
loss of belief in the man.
A reasonable excuse then, at least you both learned something.
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Weak of mind and spirit?
How do you know if something is good or bad.
I pray on it.
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Do you check it out
yourself or do you let your Church tell you. If your Church how do
they know?
You seem completely obsessed with "Church"...why is that?

You do know that no church is necessary to be one with the Creator, yes?
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If so - ESAD.
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The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
I am sorry you believe that as it is 100% wrong.
The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right up until we embrace
our secular Satan.
If the 'Holy Spirit is in control, how can you 'embrace
secular Satan'?
God gave man 'free will' you know.
Then the Holy Spirit is not in "Control".
Who gave us free will again?

Uh huh.
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It is a guide as I
suggested. That is the take I get on how it should be in the Bible.
There is more written and oral tradition guidance than just our
Christian Bible you know.
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After that free will, salvation, prayer and lessons learned are the path
back.
The words of 'Jesus' lead to salvation not the church.
Did I SAY "the church"?
Then where do you get your information?
Many places.
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You'd admitted you don't do personal research.
I have?

Where?

Cite me.
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Do you hear voices?
Isn't the Holy Spirit a voice of sorts?
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Don't try to tell me the Holy Spirit tells you.
Why not?
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I've tested that
among Holy rollers and they failed.
So?

Do you presume I'm also a "Holy roller"?
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You see if Holy Rollers did talk
directly to the Holy Spirit when you asked one a question you would
get the same answer from them all.
Does every GM car accelerate and brake identically, or do differing
components produce differing levels of performance?
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Do you SEE that anywhere in my reply?
What I saw in your reply was deception and deceit.
No, that was what you wanted to see.
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I said "The Holy
spirit is a guide not in control". You go on to say it is with the
deceptive reply. "The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right
up until we embrace our secular Satan" To you the Holy Spirit is in
Control but isn't really??
You seem to have a problem with the notion of Satan/evil.

That can be a good thing, but not the way you're expressing it.
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No?
So fuck off with your own agenda, dumbass.
Looks like you have a agenda and it is a false belief.
What things look like to you must oft times be skewed.
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Do you fall on the floor and squirm?
Nope.
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You a holy roller?
Nope.

And you?
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Belief in Jesus should not be about your personal power or being
better than those around you.
True.

And "personal power" is a myth anyway.

Just ask Al Franken..
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The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion.
Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?
Was your sole purpose here mockery of divergent faiths?
I went to see Benny Hinn and he is a total fraud. People were waiting
for signals to fall down.
Why would you do that anyway?
How can you decide about something unless you go and check it out.
Uh, you can just use common sense...
Well no matter how many Nyms you use I say common sense says you
should get off the floor and stop spitting and mumbling nonsense,
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Post by MattB
Been to many religious functions Catholic, Baptist and born again and
such over the years.
That's nice, and?
And nothing I went to see what they stood for and what type of
people they were. did not take the word of any Church about it.
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As to why I went to this event it was in Florida and went with a
friend who was at that time a fan of Benny. He left that event with a
loss of belief in the man.
A reasonable excuse then, at least you both learned something.
Do I need a excuse? Arrogant much?
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Weak of mind and spirit?
How do you know if something is good or bad.
I pray on it.
AHH Yes I'm sure Jim Jones and David Koresh prayed on it.
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Do you check it out
yourself or do you let your Church tell you. If your Church how do
they know?
You seem completely obsessed with "Church"...why is that?
You do know that no church is necessary to be one with the Creator, yes?
Yes and one not need be born again as such.
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If so - ESAD.
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The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
I am sorry you believe that as it is 100% wrong.
The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right up until we embrace
our secular Satan.
If the 'Holy Spirit is in control, how can you 'embrace
secular Satan'?
God gave man 'free will' you know.
Then the Holy Spirit is not in "Control".
Who gave us free will again?
Then you admit I am correct the Holy Spirit is only a guide. Thanks
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Uh huh.
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It is a guide as I
suggested. That is the take I get on how it should be in the Bible.
There is more written and oral tradition guidance than just our
Christian Bible you know.
Yes I'm sure. David Koresh types always say such. You make your
religion as you go.
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After that free will, salvation, prayer and lessons learned are the path
back.
The words of 'Jesus' lead to salvation not the church.
Did I SAY "the church"?
Then where do you get your information?
Many places.
Such as?
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You'd admitted you don't do personal research.
I have?
Where?
Read this very post. You mock someone for looking for themselves and
then change your Nym. Deceptive
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Cite me.
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Do you hear voices?
Isn't the Holy Spirit a voice of sorts?
Not really it would be a part of you.
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Don't try to tell me the Holy Spirit tells you.
Why not?
Tell me why two people such as yourself who claim to be in direct
contact with the Holy Spirit would give a different answer to the same
question.
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I've tested that
among Holy rollers and they failed.
So?
Do you presume I'm also a "Holy roller"?
No you are just playing a head game. Me I'm just wasting time.
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You see if Holy Rollers did talk
directly to the Holy Spirit when you asked one a question you would
get the same answer from them all.
Does every GM car accelerate and brake identically, or do differing
components produce differing levels of performance?
Deceptive and you consider the Holy Spirit on the same spiritual level
as a car??
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Do you SEE that anywhere in my reply?
What I saw in your reply was deception and deceit.
No, that was what you wanted to see.
You now claim to read minds? You a sorcerer?
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I said "The Holy
spirit is a guide not in control". You go on to say it is with the
deceptive reply. "The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right
up until we embrace our secular Satan" To you the Holy Spirit is in
Control but isn't really??
You seem to have a problem with the notion of Satan/evil.
No with the idea of "Control". Holy Spirit could not be effected by
Satan
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That can be a good thing, but not the way you're expressing it.
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No?
So fuck off with your own agenda, dumbass.
Looks like you have a agenda and it is a false belief.
What things look like to you must oft times be skewed.
You are allowed you opinion
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Do you fall on the floor and squirm?
Nope.
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You a holy roller?
Nope.
And you?
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Belief in Jesus should not be about your personal power or being
better than those around you.
True.
And "personal power" is a myth anyway.
Just ask Al Franken..
Al Franken and Moore are scum.
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The Holy Spirit is in each one of us, really.
Like you said that is a different discussion.
Do you fall on the
floor and squirm? You a holy roller?
Was your sole purpose here mockery of divergent faiths?
I went to see Benny Hinn and he is a total fraud. People were waiting
for signals to fall down.
Why would you do that anyway?
How can you decide about something unless you go and check it out.
Uh, you can just use common sense...
Well no matter how many Nyms you use I say common sense says you
should get off the floor and stop spitting and mumbling nonsense,
Does this mean you aren't getting the answers you wanted here?
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Been to many religious functions Catholic, Baptist and born again and
such over the years.
That's nice, and?
And nothing I went to see what they stood for and what type of
people they were. did not take the word of any Church about it.
People are people regardless of their church.
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As to why I went to this event it was in Florida and went with a
friend who was at that time a fan of Benny. He left that event with a
loss of belief in the man.
A reasonable excuse then, at least you both learned something.
Do I need a excuse? Arrogant much?
I think anyone who falls under the shadow of a televangelist needs an
excuse.

Swaggert much?
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Weak of mind and spirit?
How do you know if something is good or bad.
I pray on it.
AHH Yes I'm sure Jim Jones and David Koresh prayed on it.
They would say that, yes.
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Do you check it out
yourself or do you let your Church tell you. If your Church how do
they know?
You seem completely obsessed with "Church"...why is that?
You do know that no church is necessary to be one with the Creator, yes?
Yes and one not need be born again as such.
Also true.
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If so - ESAD.
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The Holy spirit is a guide not in control.
I am sorry you believe that as it is 100% wrong.
The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right up until we embrace
our secular Satan.
If the 'Holy Spirit is in control, how can you 'embrace
secular Satan'?
God gave man 'free will' you know.
Then the Holy Spirit is not in "Control".
Who gave us free will again?
Then you admit I am correct the Holy Spirit is only a guide. Thanks
Manufacturer, owner, guide, etc.
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Uh huh.
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It is a guide as I
suggested. That is the take I get on how it should be in the Bible.
There is more written and oral tradition guidance than just our
Christian Bible you know.
Yes I'm sure. David Koresh types always say such. You make your
religion as you go.
No, you read an learn from others and cross reference.

Why the Koresh obsession now?
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After that free will, salvation, prayer and lessons learned are the path
back.
The words of 'Jesus' lead to salvation not the church.
Did I SAY "the church"?
Then where do you get your information?
Many places.
Such as?
Books, the net, radio, podcasts, ancient art, etc.
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You'd admitted you don't do personal research.
I have?
Where?
Read this very post. You mock someone for looking for themselves and
then change your Nym. Deceptive
Nah, it's the nature of this game.
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Cite me.
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Do you hear voices?
Isn't the Holy Spirit a voice of sorts?
Not really it would be a part of you.
It is a part of ALL of us, yes.
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Don't try to tell me the Holy Spirit tells you.
Why not?
Tell me why two people such as yourself who claim to be in direct
contact with the Holy Spirit would give a different answer to the same
question.
Simple - different life experiences.
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I've tested that
among Holy rollers and they failed.
So?
Do you presume I'm also a "Holy roller"?
No you are just playing a head game. Me I'm just wasting time.
Indeed you are.
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You see if Holy Rollers did talk
directly to the Holy Spirit when you asked one a question you would
get the same answer from them all.
Does every GM car accelerate and brake identically, or do differing
components produce differing levels of performance?
Deceptive and you consider the Holy Spirit on the same spiritual level
as a car??
We come from some spiritual factory don't we?

And not all of us are identical.

Ergo we will perform differently.

It's an analogy ya know, and a fair one.
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Do you SEE that anywhere in my reply?
What I saw in your reply was deception and deceit.
No, that was what you wanted to see.
You now claim to read minds? You a sorcerer?
Intuitive.
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I said "The Holy
spirit is a guide not in control". You go on to say it is with the
deceptive reply. "The Holy Spirit is born in control of us all right
up until we embrace our secular Satan" To you the Holy Spirit is in
Control but isn't really??
You seem to have a problem with the notion of Satan/evil.
No with the idea of "Control". Holy Spirit could not be effected by
Satan
But MAN can.
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That can be a good thing, but not the way you're expressing it.
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No?
So fuck off with your own agenda, dumbass.
Looks like you have a agenda and it is a false belief.
What things look like to you must oft times be skewed.
You are allowed you opinion
Boy am I!
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Do you fall on the floor and squirm?
Nope.
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You a holy roller?
Nope.
And you?
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Belief in Jesus should not be about your personal power or being
better than those around you.
True.
And "personal power" is a myth anyway.
Just ask Al Franken..
Al Franken and Moore are scum.
Franken surely is, Moore may have reformed and found salvation though.
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